Confirmed with Link: Patrik Nemeth signed

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  1. Henkka

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    Would have been more interesting hearing Kris Draper calling to Claude. :)
     
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    Man you Colorado fans have had a lot of good things to say about him. He obviously won't bring any offense at all but it sounds like he'll fill Jensen's role nicely. A late 20's guy who won't shatter like our ancient defensemen and plays his role well.
     
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    More I read about this signing, the more I like it. I wouldn't preferred the center version of this signing, instead of Filppula though.
     
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    Well, his production and icetime last season went down even though he was better in the second/last part of the season. His role and icetime obviously changed a lot after the Avs aquiring Cole but he had a really impressive 2017-18 season, especially looking at his stats. I believe he was NHL top three in blocking shots (looking at average/game) and also +27 together with 15 points (3+12), avering 19:51 of icetime/game (!)

    He may bring some offense but it also depends on how the coach will be using him/instructing him etc...

    A nice tocuh about Nemeth is him (usually) being able to lift himself in important games. He was really great in the finals when Sweden winning WJC gold 2012, his effort leading to the game winning goal. In addition he was great in the finals when Texas Stars winning the Calder Cup 2013–14.

    Sometimes when given time (and some luck?) his slapshot is very powerful (he is a strong dude), unfortunately it's rare. I will keep on eye on him and it will be interesting following his development. The freak injury when playing for Dallas was really, really bad messing up his NHL career but now he is looking good again.





     
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    I mentioned a month ago or so that with all of the PMD players and prospects on the right side (Green, Hronek, Kaski, Bowey, and now Seider) that I wanted to add a physical stay at home left D. I guess I should be happy with this signing.

    If anything it means one of Daley or BigE will sit in the press box.
     
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    Would like to see that Calder Cup replay again.

    Nemeth scoring against Hutchinson and Wings winning a playoff series against Leafs. :P
     
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    I don't know how anyone can say "Dekeyser sucks". It's just not correct at all.

    You can say "Dekeyser is overpaid", which most believe is an accurate statement. You can say "Dekeyser has no business on an NHL team's top pair" which again, is an accurate statement. You can say "I expected more out of Dekeyser at this point" which could also be valid depending on what you expected out of him. Dekeyser doesn't suck though, he's a reliable NHL defenceman that would be a perfect 2nd paid guy on most teams. Our problem is we play him on our top pair.
     
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    Hope he can find a good spot in the D core to shore it up. Our D is so outgunned by most other rosters and without top-end talent, I don't see this signing changing much. Would have rather seen this signing and could do without the Filpulla signing and use that cap to take on a bad contract for an asset.
     
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    He sucks relative to his term and AAV is what I meant...
     
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    29 assists over the last 3 seasons (199 games) with how many minutes he plays is pretty brutal.

    But he did seem to at least get back to being serviceable last year.
     
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    I think Yzerman is playing a waiting game to force those teams to build their cap towards full even more.

    And then you walk in as savior, when the need for outside cap space will be at their biggest.

    There's still existing cap space for that plan.
     
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    Exactly that was my first impression as well. I was not used to reading such friendly descriptions, since the Red Wings' veteran defensemen do not get much praise here...

    Gruß,
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    Jamie Macoun was clutch tho ;)

     
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    All the DeKeyser angst is born from the fact that he personifies milquetoast defense and gets paid well to do it. The fact that he's made no significant strides in getting stronger is not what you expect from a guy that was gifted with that term and cap hit.

    He is not a "perfect 2nd paring" on most teams, but everything else you mention is accurate. Just look at the playoff teams this year, no way he cracks the top 4 of the majority. Dude isn't built for the playoffs.
     
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    Being responsible defensively and being good defensively are two different things. Dekeyser has done an admirable job accumulating experience that would make him valuable depth for a great team.

    But beyond that, he's sub-par in almost every way except for reach and neutral zone mobility.

    If anything he's regressed athletically over his career, and if i had to guess i'd say he added too much strength/weight and lost a lot of his already compromised agility and push in tight.
     
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    Yeah, those 3 lbs he added really slows him down.

    (He was listed at 190 as a rookie, 192/3 right now.)
     
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    If that's what you choose to go by.
     
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    Not saying he hasn't regressed, but he definitely hadn't put on any muscle. He actually looks weaker now than when he joined the league. Whatever it is that's slowing him down, it's not added bulk.
     
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    Weight can fluctuate greatly. Byfugelein was listed at 260 lbs and it was reported one offseason he was around 300 lbs.

    Also recall Keith Tkachuk getting suspended for reporting 'overweight' to the team.
     
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    LOL, DDK is not Big Buf, Tkachuk, Ovy, Kessel, Howard, or the Fridge. Those guys came into camp overweight by getting fat. He's never looked fat coming into camp. I don't think DDK has the ability to gain 50 lbs of fat if he tried.

    I think he's slowing down a bit from getting banged up. Hockey takes its toll.

    BTW, take a look at Tkachuk now. He makes Kessel look anorexic.
     
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    I think the rapid increase in the speed of play has negated what was Dekeyser's biggest strength. As the league has sped up, he doesn't have the strength or raw skills to adapt as well and gets exposed - especially on this team where he's a bit over his head every night as it is.
     
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    I dont love Dekeyser by any means but hes definitely a guy who is play above his ability. He shouldnt be a top pairing guy on any team but if the wings had a couple top pairing D and he was on the second pair I think he would be fine. Instead hes forced to play some PP mins and do things hes not really able to do well so we dont like him.
     
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    I think it depends on the team. I remember people used to say the same thing about Nyquist and how he would NEVER be a top 6 forward on a playoff team, then sure enough he goes to the Sharks and plays in a top 6 role. I think with the right partner on the right team he could be a top 4 guy.
     
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    That's an interesting point, I do remember when he first came into the league, his speed impressed me quite a bit. I never notice his speed anymore.
     
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    Dekeyser scored 20 ES points in 50 games It is even better ES production than Yandle who finished 5th in the league for scoring by d-men and a few other d-men who finished in the top 20 for scoring by d-men and his forte is defense.
    Green although not great defensively is better than I thought he would be and he consistently puts up more than half a point a game.
    Dekeyser and Green are probably a better pair than anything the Pens could put together when they won their most recent Cup.
     

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