Maukkis
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Player Discussion: Patrik Laine
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Ducky10
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I am really impressed by Laine's career thus far. His skills are a treat to watch, and I feel lucky I have the chance to watch him here in our city.
Keep up the great work, Patrik!
Keep up the great work, Patrik!
October then a lull then December, January, going into February with a giant jump in November where he shot 33%.
I suppose saying 3 month stretch is disingenuous. It is a 2 month stretch going on 3 with a really solid November.
Festinator
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The few posts I've seen entertaining the thought of trading Laine are pretty embarrassing. Reminds me of what people thought of Scheifele.
The nickname Bambi for Scheifele didn't start out as an affectionate nickname like it is now. You'd think people would have learned to have more patience after watching Scheifs develop, but maybe some people never learn
The nickname Bambi for Scheifele didn't start out as an affectionate nickname like it is now. You'd think people would have learned to have more patience after watching Scheifs develop, but maybe some people never learn
False equivalence. Scheifs drive to be better is unmatched from any of the kids I've ever seen come through this team. Just because he has it doesn't mean every single player that comes through our system will.
Those people don't remember game days when people would post "Scheifele Down!" as a joke because he couldn't stand up if he got within 2 feet of the boards. He seems to have done pretty well over the past few years.
I don't think there is any proof that Laine isn't working his butt off to get better. He wants to be the best in the world.
Festinator
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Absolutely nobody was saying this 5-7 years ago when he was just starting out and struggling. People were saying how we should have drafted couturier instead.
And when you've accomplished everything that Laine has accomplished at the age of 20, it's fairly silly to insinuate he has no drive
raideralex99
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I'm not going to bash Laine ... he's just a kid and is still learning but boy oh boy has he fallen from grace. The sport shows don't even mention his name now when talking about shooters and contracts.
I'm not saying he has none. I'm just not sure it's anywhere close to the drive Scheif has. Scehif eats sleeps and breathes hockey. Laine eats sleeps and breathes something... not sure it's hockey.
Yes, I remember the huge amount of angst over how Couturier was doing so much better than Scheif at some points in their development.
It's odd that Scheifele is held up as such an example when people talk about Laine, but the resemblance at that age is uncanny. Many people didn't want him in the NHL for a few years with lots of talk of sending him back to the AHL. Little of his development showed up for years after that.
I'm sure you're right. I was just countering your post that insinuated that Laine doesn't work his butt off to improve.
Jetfaninflorida
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Scheifele's effort level was always high. I can't say that about Laine.
I think I'll come back when this becomes a player discussion instead of player bashing. This is depressing.
Yeah even when Scheif was in full bambi mode the kid was doing some things right.
Ducky10
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This thread is just degenerating into a bunch of conjecture. It would be a whole lot better if people stuck to actual facts and things they actually know.
Ducky10
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Oh c'mon, you honestly believe that? I think you take a lot of what is said in soundbites and extrapolate them to a large degree. He didn't skate or shoot all summer, therefore...
bustamente
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I don't know much but I do know this, you don't give up on a 20 year old that scored 44 goals last year, yes he is scuttling this year but the team has to do everything in their power to get him back on track if not this year next year
I wouldn't worry to much about the current state of Laine's play. In every business situation , I always say - "what's the worse that could happen." ?? The absolute worst with Laine, is that he scores you 38 - 50 goals per year, and is just "a goal scorer" with a flawed game, that's incomplete at the moment. Not to bad at the worst situation. If he does score 50 goals, likely he'd only have 35 assists -total= 85 points. He's not that good a playmaker like Wheeler is, for example.
At the best he develops his game, gains strength as he ages, and becomes an all around player, who can score as well. This is what we all hope ideally to be the case.
In order to determine that, you need a lot of experience with people, and judging their characters, and also their physical potential and then make a decision. I believe it took Mckinnon from Colorado 4-5 years to come into his own, and same with Sceifele. This obviously means you need foresight and a whole lot of patience. I also think these big bodied players take longer to grow into their bodies.
This can be a very big advantage to the Jets right now for Laine, as he won't command the kind of money it's suggested that he wants --like $ 9-10 mil per year. Maybe because of his bad play, you can get him on a long term deal, at a great price, the same that was done with Scheifele ??
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The other option is you trade him for a guy like Duchene or Stone, or someone of that calibre, that will score close to what you "hope" that Laine will. Guys like Duchene will put up about 90 to 100 points per year -- so what would you lose with them ?? You "might" lose a little if Laine becomes a 120 point a year player, and I rather doubt that, and if he does --your only down 20 points or so. It's really a good problem to have, if you handle it right, and I think Chevy will.
At the best he develops his game, gains strength as he ages, and becomes an all around player, who can score as well. This is what we all hope ideally to be the case.
In order to determine that, you need a lot of experience with people, and judging their characters, and also their physical potential and then make a decision. I believe it took Mckinnon from Colorado 4-5 years to come into his own, and same with Sceifele. This obviously means you need foresight and a whole lot of patience. I also think these big bodied players take longer to grow into their bodies.
This can be a very big advantage to the Jets right now for Laine, as he won't command the kind of money it's suggested that he wants --like $ 9-10 mil per year. Maybe because of his bad play, you can get him on a long term deal, at a great price, the same that was done with Scheifele ??
OR
The other option is you trade him for a guy like Duchene or Stone, or someone of that calibre, that will score close to what you "hope" that Laine will. Guys like Duchene will put up about 90 to 100 points per year -- so what would you lose with them ?? You "might" lose a little if Laine becomes a 120 point a year player, and I rather doubt that, and if he does --your only down 20 points or so. It's really a good problem to have, if you handle it right, and I think Chevy will.
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What's wrong with Kraft dinner damnit . 
The video gaming could help his hand eye coordination also .
Laine will start scoring again , how many goals has he scored and even he probably said to himself , how the hell did that go in . To me it's more the law of averages , it will eventually turn back in his favor again .
The video gaming could help his hand eye coordination also . Laine will start scoring again , how many goals has he scored and even he probably said to himself , how the hell did that go in . To me it's more the law of averages , it will eventually turn back in his favor again .- Status
