Patrik Laine Part III: More Hats, please.

[YWGinYYZ]

Continued from: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2148511

Edit: a collection of GIFs created by Harmonica1 of Laine's goal-scoring exploits for your pleasure - hope you've got a fast phone/tablet/PC!

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[wpgsilver]

I would love some hats.

 

[Jets]

Own Goal Sniper

 

[Kaako Kappo]

He has so much to learn. No idea what to expect out of him for the rest of the season.

 

[Hokinaittii]

He has so much to learn. No idea what to expect out of him for the rest of the season. Last 22 games 6 goals, not that great guys.

True but considering where he started this season and how much he has already adapted, it might be sooner than we think when he starts to fill his true potential. The fact that he was leading the Calder race despite being "rawest" rookie out there is definately impressive.

6 goals in 22 games is definately not anything to be shamed about, especially for a 18 years old kiddo. Guy literally just came from one of the worst scheduled months in recent history, it definately had a lot of impact to his game as it also had on Jets' veteran players. Not many if any from Jets were playing their best game in those 20-25 games they had in a span of one month or so.

I personally expect Laine to keep on improving. Too many times I've thought I have seen it all from this guy.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

He's 18. Nice apple on buffs goal and should have got one on Lowry also

 

[John Agar]

He's 18. Nice apple on buffs goal and should have got one on Lowry also

Here is what I was doing when I was eighteen...

I am out of frame, but these are my brothers back then...

All'Hats' boy will graduate to big boy games and results soon enough

 

[Kaako Kappo]

He's 18. Nice apple on buffs goal and should have got one on Lowry also

Yeah he is, but i have watched him for a year to try and fail doing the same stupid dangles, cross-ice passes etc. He still does the "backcheck and skate away" thing. Again in the shootout he showed that his bag of tricks isnt exactly the deepest in the world. It gets frustrating.

He is at his best when he plays simple hockey. Screw you Laine for setting the expectations so high with the amazing start

 

[Hokinaittii]

Yeah he is, but i have watched him for a year to try and fail doing the same stupid dangles, cross-ice passes etc. He still does the "backcheck and skate away" thing. Again in the shootout he showed that his bag of tricks isnt exactly the deepest in the world. It gets frustrating.

He is at his best when he plays simple hockey.

What dangles today made you upset? I don't remember any unnecessary dangles. If anything, he has gotten rid of the those unnecessary between the legs dekes that he was pulling in every second game in Liiga and needless to say they hardly ever resulted into anything.

When it comes to cross-ice passes, zero turnovers from those today and one time he played his teammate into breakaway with that cross-ice pass. I don't deny that sometimes his cross-ice passes don't really work out and even if they do connect, there would have been a better play available. But no one's perfect when they are playing their first season in the NHL. You learn everytime from your misplays.

His backchecking though definately has room for improvement, especially if you mean the plays where he seems to standing still and just holding his position in the defensive zone when he probably could attack the puck with his stick to stickcheck it away.

And finally, while Luongo surely had studied Laine's goals in shootouts, I don't think you need to switch the deke as long as you keep scoring with it. Look at Mikko Koivu and especially younger Jussi Jokinen, those guys kept scoring with the same move shootout after shootout because it worked. Guy is 2/3 in shootouts and there are skillful players like Perreault with 1 goal out of 11 tries in shootouts. I'd definately wait beforing calling the guy's skill repertoire lacking.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Thanks, i just wanted someone to blast me with some positive truths

One thing that i think has lowered his scoring is that other teams scouted him and noticed how weak he is on the puck. You can render him useless by sending someone to poke him a bit.

 

[Hobby Bull]

Thanks, i just wanted someone to blast me with some positive truths

One thing that i think has lowered his scoring is that other teams scouted him and noticed how weak he is on the puck. You can render him useless by sending someone to poke him a bit.

Yep. Send someone out to poke at him with a stick... Totally useless.

I'd ask you to be less ridiculous, but it's fun to hear your "opinion".

 

[Kaako Kappo]

He'll adapt and it wont be as easy, but come on, its ridiculous how easily he loses the puck sometimes. Rookie things. Dunno im just trying to be more critical so not everything about him is all rainbows and sunshine over here... but i do understand that most of his quirks will be fixed by experience

 

[YWGinYYZ]

He has so much to learn. No idea what to expect out of him for the rest of the season.

An 18yo has so much to learn? You don't say. I expect to see a dynamic player learning his craft for the rest of the year, with the attendant ups and downs of a rookie. He's a bit of a baby giraffe too, and is still growing into his body.

He'll adapt and it wont be as easy, but come on, its ridiculous how easily he loses the puck sometimes. Rookie things. Dunno im just trying to be more critical so not everything about him is all rainbows and sunshine over here... but i do understand that most of his quirks will be fixed by experience

Does he lose puck battles quite often? Yep. Will he continue to lose these battles? I doubt it - he's a skilled and smart kid, and will figure it out. He's 18yo, playing against the best ****ng hockey players in the world, and acquitting himself quite nicely given this fact.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

An 18yo has so much to learn? You don't say. I expect to see a dynamic player learning his craft for the rest of the year, with the attendant ups and downs of a rookie. He's a bit of a baby giraffe too, and is still growing into his body.



Does he lose puck battles quite often? Yep. Will he continue to lose these battles? I doubt it - he's a skilled and smart kid, and will figure it out. He's 18yo, playing against the best ****ng hockey players in the world, and acquitting himself quite nicely given this fact.

You are right of course. I tend to go into a panic mode when things don't go the way I've thought they would. And i am very impatient. Ignore my ramblings.

 

[LaoTze]

You are right of course. I tend to go into a panic mode when things don't go the way I've thought they would. And i am very impatient. Ignore my ramblings.

You should see a highlight reel of me watching Kimi Räikkönen's career... I've been pretty angry

 

[Stompa]

He'll adapt and it wont be as easy, but come on, its ridiculous how easily he loses the puck sometimes. Rookie things. Dunno im just trying to be more critical so not everything about him is all rainbows and sunshine over here... but i do understand that most of his quirks will be fixed by experience

What you are saying now is exactly what I was saying a month or two ago [mod]. Glad you finally started to look objectivly at Laine.

 

[Couchcaptain]

Goddamn this finnish pessimism is killing me..
He played quite a good game yesterday, some nice passes and some good goalscoring chances too.
It ain't just always going to be hattrick after hattrick

 

[heretik27]

I was just reading the Detroit woe is me draft thread on the main board and happened to look up where Kronwall was drafted (2000, 29th OA) and came across this player from the same draft year.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=3183
Teemu Laine

Totally irrelevant, but still a pretty random find heheh. He's also a former Tappara player. Does anyone know if he's related to Patrik in any way?

 

[Torspo21]

I was just reading the Detroit woe is me draft thread on the main board and happened to look up where Kronwall was drafted (2000, 29th OA) and came across this player from the same draft year.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=3183
Teemu Laine

Totally irrelevant, but still a pretty random find heheh. He's also a former Tappara player. Does anyone know if he's related to Patrik in any way?

Teemu and Patrik are not related. Laine is quite common surname in Finland.

 

[heretik27]

Teemu and Patrik are not related. Laine is quite common surname in Finland.

Ah, so it's kind of like Johnson or Smith over here. Still, I rather enjoyed reading his description as well.

"A very speedy forward with great acceleration. Goes hard to the net and likes to fire the puck. Strong along the boards. Possesses agitator qualities, likes to run his mouth."

 

[Gm0ney]

I was just reading the Detroit woe is me draft thread on the main board and happened to look up where Kronwall was drafted (2000, 29th OA) and came across this player from the same draft year.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=3183
Teemu Laine

Totally irrelevant, but still a pretty random find heheh. He's also a former Tappara player. Does anyone know if he's related to Patrik in any way?

Laine seems to be a pretty common name in Finland. Also Teemu. There was a Teemu Numminen drafted by Jets 1.0 back in the day (also from Tappara)...unfortunately he didn't combine the defensive skills of Teppo with the offensive prowess of Selanne.

 

[heretik27]

Laine seems to be a pretty common name in Finland. Also Teemu. There was a Teemu Numminen drafted by Jets 1.0 back in the day (also from Tappara)...unfortunately he didn't combine the defensive skills of Teppo with the offensive prowess of Selanne.

Not a big deal, sounds like we got the good ones!

 

[randomhockeyfan]

Wow some people are quite harsh. He's still just a rookie and he's won us a few games, I think he'll be fine. Expectations got apparently too high after the incredible start. Yesterday wasn't his best game but he did well considering the embarrassing own goal from the last game.

 

[Couchcaptain]

Wow some people are quite harsh. He's still just a rookie and he's won us a few games, I think he'll be fine. Expectations got apparently too high after the incredible start. Yesterday wasn't his best game but he did well considering the embarrassing own goal from the last game.

Very much that. I mean, those expectations just got out of hands and went right into the sky like a rocket. He has literally been having a record breaking rookie season for 18 year old thus far. He has been right there with the all time best 18 year old rookies in scoring goals thus far..
But i quess nothing is enough..

Off course he has a lot of things to improve, and a lot of room to improve. Which is the best part, if you ask me. I mean, he is doing that great allready with all those things that can be improved a lot. That screams to me a totally insane potential, hes ceiling is in the outer space.

 

[Lempo]

Laine seems to be a pretty common name in Finland.

Most common one of the nature names that doesn't any "-nen" or other addition to it. In fact that kind of names are called 'Laine-type names' among the scholars of the field.