Patrick Marleau - Magic Tricks

[Kiwi]

On pace for the lowest scoring season of his career. He had a strong playoffs last year so here’s hoping he can pull things together again when the time comes.

He shouldn’t be in the top 9 next year though.

He should be in the top 9 now?

Great career, great guy, God awful contract and he shouldn't play higher than the 4th line imo

 

[Brown Dog]

It's pretty clear he is retiring this year. He is gassed.

God I hope so!

 

[Nithoniniel]

The only way you can think Marleau is better is if you solely look at box scores. He's had no defensive impact. He is one of our absolutely worst players in transition. He's one of our worst forwards at creating scoring chances. The only thing Marleau has done is capitalize on other people's offense. Nylander has been a boost in all areas except execution, and he can really only take ownership of his own there.

Don’t forget elite zone entries

Never understood these kind of comments. Reminds me of when people mocked possession stats despite it being well known that possession matters for 50 years.

 

[CreeksideStrangler]

If Lou was here he would already be in Robidas island. I don't know how Lou was able to work that magic.

I don't think Dubas has the power Lou once did, he can't just throw Lupul on an island like Lou did against his will

lou signed him to that horrible contract in the first place. I wouldnt tout his "magic" that much.

 

[GoonieFace]

The only way you can think Marleau is better is if you solely look at box scores. He's had no defensive impact. He is one of our absolutely worst players in transition. He's one of our worst forwards at creating scoring chances. The only thing Marleau has done is capitalize on other people's offense. Nylander has been a boost in all areas except execution, and he can really only take ownership of his own there.


Never understood these kind of comments. Reminds me of when people mocked possession stats despite it being well known that possession matters for 50 years.

I dont understand them either, I guess its my way of saying Nylander has been hot garbage. Tons of skill but there is no "Will" in William

 

[Nithoniniel]

I dont understand them either, I guess its my way of saying Nylander has been hot garbage. Tons of skill but there is no "Will" in William

Yeah. And I don't want to come off as if I excuse everything for him. He's an offensive weapon. At some point, all that process need to lead to good results. It hasn't.

 

[HogTown06]

God I hope so!

Isn't there some sort of recapture if he retires though? Kind of like the Luongo situation? Not sure it works for older players.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

It will only get worse next season. It is sad for a HOFer to stay on when all it is doing is sullying his reputation. But the money is so big right now. I don't know him but I hope he does the right thing. Give er 1 more playoff run and then go out still a good guy.

 

[BlueForever75]

For a player that is almost 40 years old having 14 goals and 21 assists in a young NHL isn't that bad. He still has some in the tank if he's putting up those numbers. The problem is he is not a 6 million dollar player.

But I really don't have an issue to what he brings to the team if it weren't the cost attached to him. He should be getting paid around 4 million a season.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Go out on a high note PM.....please?

 

[Al14]

I like you as poster, so don't resort to stuff like this.

Don't forget his elite post entries.

 

[CelticDruid]

Maybe he will get his roid caught under the toilet seat causing a whiplash effect.

 

[Suntouchable13]

At first I thought this was about him doing some magic tricks on the side or something

 

[Ciao]

Isn't there some sort of recapture if he retires though? Kind of like the Luongo situation? Not sure it works for older players.

Not exactly.

This is a 35+ contract that stays on the books at face value even after he retires.

The only escape hatch I see is to bonus him, then trade him, and then he retires leaving next years cap hit with the new team he was on at the time of retirement.

Nylander and Marleau to Carolina on July 2 for Dougie Hamilton and a second?

 

[al secord]

At first I thought this was about him doing some magic tricks on the side or something

I came here exactly for that!

 

[ACC1224]

At first I thought this was about him doing some magic tricks on the side or something

Yeah, i don't get the relevance of the title.

 

[Nooodles]

Yeah, i don't get the relevance of the title.

Because at the moment it is quiet difficult to remove him from next years roster. He has NMC and a big family in Toronto. Dubas can ask him to move, but it's gonna be tough, but I hope he understands the situation and has the courage to do that, and put aside the "we respect him" thing.
If Marleau is not willing to move or retire, or there is no team in the league which would take him, than Dubas will have to come up with some kind of "magic trick", kinda like what the Blackhawks did to Hossa, when he suddenly got allergic to his equipment. Yeah, sure, lol.
Hope this explains for you.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

That allergy thing worked really well. Why can't we try it out too. You know the old age allergy for CAP teams.

 

[ACC1224]

That allergy thing worked really well. Why can't we try it out too. You know the old age allergy for CAP teams.

Anything can work if Marleau is willing.
If he's not on board, expect him on the roster.

 

[drewjenks]

Enough is enough. The guy is done.
There is no way Dubas doesn't ask him to leave. We cannot afford him next year, not in this cap situation we are going to face.

Even if there was no cap at all, this guy is just simply useless anymore.

How would you solve this problem? What do you think?

I'm not sure if he does magic tricks.
But I have it on good authority that he can juggle.

 

[Loosie]

Marleau is the worst winger in the NHL and AHL, combined. He would be on the 4th line in an NHL alumni game. Enough is enough.

14G 21A 35P, but 'worst winger in the NHL and AHL'

He's slowed down but not as bad as you are suggesting.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

14G 21A 35P, but 'worst winger in the NHL and AHL'

He's slowed down but not as bad as you are suggesting.

It needs to be taken figuratively not literally but every line he has gone to has stopped production when he lands on it. As soon as Babs saw it impacting Matty he moved him to Willy and now Kadri gets the screwing. He is a 4th liner now. That is where he belongs today at best.

 

[Menzinger]

He should be in the top 9 now?

Great career, great guy, God awful contract and he shouldn't play higher than the 4th line imo

He’d be best suited on the 4th line right now.

He wouldn’t be an anchor for any of the Leafs main skill guys, and would be more skilled than most other teams 4th loners so he’d probably be able to produce just fine.

He’s the only guy on the team whose contract status and past reputation determines his icetime rather than his current abilities.

 

[tmlms13]

Get injured and accept a trade to Arizona in the offseason.

Use space to pay Marner and maybe resign Gardiner. I think his absence right now is proving to all the haters that he is an important piece that will be difficult to replace.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Anything can work if Marleau is willing.
If he's not on board, expect him on the roster.

Since Babs says and I quote " Patty flat out makes everyone better by just walking past them" ..well I have a new job for him... he can be an assistant coach just pacing back and forth behind the bench making them all better at once. Why restrict his ability to 1 line on the ice when he can help the whole team?