Speculation: Patrick Marleau discussion Part II

[Suntouchable13]

The guy was selfish, you gotta admit, last season for not wanting to sit out a few games towards the end just so he could maintain his meaningless streak. That streak is no longer impressive to me because all he does is just skate around out there not doing much. The guy is all about himself only.

 

[X66]

It is. Almost as comically bad as the personnel he had to choose from in his bottom 6... apparently it makes sense to have Freddy Gauthier and Tyler Ennis wasting roster spots when you can afford a PK specialist or two with the top 3 lines being as potent as they are.

Blaming the HOF coach for the poor roster make-up couldn’t sound more foolish yet here you are. Again.

Not everyone takes only bottom 6 forwards for their PK though.

Tavares has PK'd in New York.

Matthews should have been learning how to PK since he's come into the league.

 

[Brown Dog]

I hope Dubas takes a lesson from Masai when it comes to being absolutely ruthless to get the team to the top. There's no room for sentiment or iron man streaks or fan favourites or veteran respect or legacy appointments or any other crap. Make the team better or get the the hell out of the way!

In other words, Dubas must find a way to make Marleau disappear.

 

[Heisen]

Teams are asking for Kapanen to take MArleau. Love that the league is keeping Dubas bent over a barrel. Wouldn’t be surprised if Kyle resigned out of shame.

 

[GrunbeldDragonKnight]

I hope Dubas takes a lesson from Masai when it comes to being absolutely ruthless to get the team to the top. There's no room for sentiment or iron man streaks or fan favourites or veteran respect or legacy appointments or any other crap. Make the team better or get the the hell out of the way!

In other words, Dubas must find a way to make Marleau disappear.

Precisely. This is a business. These guys are just higly skilled meat sacks that exist for our entertainment. I want a championship, not sentiment.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Teams are asking for Kapanen to take MArleau. Love that the league is keeping Dubas bent over a barrel. Wouldn’t be surprised if Kyle resigned out of shame.

Because he was the one who signed marleau?
Great post


ffs

 

[Crysis]

Because he was the one who signed marleau?
Great post


ffs

He took the job with that contract on the books.

 

[Buds17]

He took the job with that contract on the books.

That's the reality for any incoming GM that isn't a George McPhee starting from scratch with VGK. There will be both good and not as good deals on the books. Inheriting a playoff team as a rookie NHL GM probably isn't too shabby either.

 

[Joey Hoser]

He took the job with that contract on the books.

Ummmm... what? He should have turned the job down or something? I don't get it.

 

[ShaneFalco]

He took the job with that contract on the books.

So then it was his problem to deal with?

 

[JT AM da real deal]

I don't remember exactly what he said or didn't say, I'm talking about what Leaf fans here were saying when he was signed.

This was all Babs. Babs pushed the 3rd year real hard and then made up the entire story line. and he will stick with it to the end. Another salvage project for Dubie taking out the garbage.

 

[Gary Nylund]

This was all Babs. Babs pushed the 3rd year real hard and then made up the entire story line. and he will stick with it to the end. Another salvage project for Dubie taking out the garbage.

Babs posts here? I sincerely doubt that.

 

[LeafsLegendAkiBerg]

He took the job with that contract on the books.

By this logic, whichever GM replaced Dubas (as so many here want) would immediately be responsible for the Nylander and Matthews contracts, right?

If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at Lou. Both Zaitsev and Marleau's contracts were his doing. Those are the contracts we are going to have problems moving.

 

[ACC1224]

Kyper letting all the rumours loose tonight.

Haven't looked in this thread for a few days.
Is the assumption now that Marleau is staying?

 

[Cor]

Sounds like Arizona has moved off the ask of Kapanen or Johnsson to take Marleau.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Sounds like Arizona has moved off the ask of Kapanen or Johnsson to take Marleau.

I have faith he'll be moved somehow. Important to team and player - and he still has something to offer if not over-played

 

[leburn98]

I assume Arizona's interest in Marleau is purely for his cap hit (relative to actual dollars paid out). If so, wouldn't the logical solution here be for the Leafs to trade Marleau to Arizona, then have Arizona flip him to San Jose with max salary retention? Toronto relieves themselves of Marleau's cap hit, Arizona gets the cap hit they need to reach the floor and San Jose gets a cheap Marleau.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Sounds like Arizona has moved off the ask of Kapanen or Johnsson to take Marleau.

Marleau + Bracco + lesser prospect for #45.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Marleau + Bracco + lesser prospect for #45.

Leafs are keeping Bracco. They will need a replacement due to CAP if Marner or Willy gets traded.

 

[Mosby]

I assume Arizona's interest in Marleau is purely for his cap hit (relative to actual dollars paid out). If so, wouldn't the logical solution here be for the Leafs to trade Marleau to Arizona, then have Arizona flip him to San Jose with max salary retention? Toronto relieves themselves of Marleau's cap hit, Arizona gets the cap hit they need to reach the floor and San Jose gets a cheap Marleau.

Arizona is well above the floor. Arizona has less cap space than the Leafs.

 

[leburn98]

Arizona is well above the floor. Arizona has less cap space than the Leafs.

So they actually want Marleau for his services?

 

[mouser]

I assume Arizona's interest in Marleau is purely for his cap hit (relative to actual dollars paid out). If so, wouldn't the logical solution here be for the Leafs to trade Marleau to Arizona, then have Arizona flip him to San Jose with max salary retention? Toronto relieves themselves of Marleau's cap hit, Arizona gets the cap hit they need to reach the floor and San Jose gets a cheap Marleau.

Arizona doesn't need cap to reach the floor.

The more logical trade here is Toronto retaining 50%, then Arizona retaining 50% so San Jose gets him at a 75% discount.

 

[Suntouchable13]

So they actually want Marleau for his services?

Who said they want him at all?

 

[leburn98]

Who said they want him at all?

My comment is in relation to this

Sounds like Arizona has moved off the ask of Kapanen or Johnsson to take Marleau.

 

[Suntouchable13]

My comment is in relation to this

Thanks
I did not see that
I just look at Arizona's cap situation and they need to re-sign some of their own RFAs and they are already at the cap floor. They will need a major incentive to take him on. Don't think of Arizona as a garbage dumpster any more. They want to compete.