Patrice Bergeron VS 2004 draft

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  1. august

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    If he was available this year, when do you think he would be draft? Is he a top 10 player for this year?
     
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    People have been saying this is a weaker draft than last year and in most people 2003 draft pool(if it happended again), he was in the Top 15, eventhough he should be in everyones Top 5, IMO. So if he was in this draft i have to say he would be in the top 10 for sure
     
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    Bergeron is a good player indeed, but there is not a snowball's chance he'd go, or should go, in the top 5 in either year.
     
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    Id like to agree with you, but by age 20 he would be a 65 pt 2 way center.

    How many players would you take over a 20 year old 65 point 2 way center men? And 65 points is a modest guess. He could have even more.

    Sure guys like Staal and Zherdev have higher top end potential but Bergy shouldnt be under rated.
     
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    Or. he could have even less. For all we know, this year can be nothing more than rookie luck, much like it was with a guy like Arnott ...
     
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    spintheblackcircle ...so that happened.

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    Arnott was 7th in '93. I would only take 3-5 guys out of that first round over him (Pronger, Bertuzzi, Kariya for sure....maybe Koivu, Jonsson). 7th was actually right where he should have been drafted based on his career and the guys around him that year. (Harvey, Sundstrom, Kozlov, Witt, Pederson)
     
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    I'd take Jason Allison over Jason Arnott as well, now only if Allison can stay healthy.
     
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    Id rather take a guy who has PLAYED in the NHL than someone like Tomas Vanek.

    Vanek could get 90 pts or he could Bust. At least i know Bergy can play in the NHL.
     
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    spintheblackcircle ...so that happened.

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    Agreed.....but....he can't. Deader is similar.
     
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    Yes but if haven't played in the NHL and all he would still be considered like he was when the B's drafted him .
     
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    Bergeron has the ability to dominate games sometime in the future. I swear I've never seen a frenchman(no pun intended) to be so physical at the age of 18 in the NHL. He's injuried two players already with bad injuries I may say, hes drove to the net knocking into the goaltender plenty of times, and players bounce off this guy trying to hit him (of course he's been knocked down before from a hit, but when he's balanced and usually is, he's a brickwall).

    On top of that, he's very skilled, hockey sense through the roof, his work ethic is great and he's got a great attitude towards things. This kid amazes me all the time, I watch Bruin games just to watch him, to see how he's developed from the last game.

    I can't speak for where he would have gone now in last seasons draft and where he would go in the upcoming draft. But I would very surprised to see many players in those draft years who will become the complete player that Bergeron will be.

    If Bergeron went top 5 in last seasons draft it wouldn't be so much a surprise what he's doing now, the focus would be on how good he is going to become.

    Since Bergeron was a #45 overall pick, all the focus is on how much a surprise he is, and if he can keep it up, but if Bergeron went top 5 in last seasons draft the focus wouldn't be so much on him being a surprise at what he's doing now, but just how good he is going to become.

    Bergeron should be seen has a great up and coming player by what he's shown this season in the NHL by what he's accomplished and the potential you see when you watch him. Draft class should have nothing to do with it.
     
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    I picked up Bergeron in my lifer pool earlier this year simply based on point production. At the time, I did my background checks (saw he only played one season in the Q) and thought I'd take a chance on him. I remember thinking how weird it is for a player to jump from one year of junior to the big show and be so effective. I also thought he must be feeding off his linemates.

    In the last few weeks, I've had the chance to see him play (on TV) twice. It wasn't what I expected. He wasn't feeding off the other players, rather HE was making things happen. He is a solid NHL player and he'll still be 18 at season's end. That's crazy. :rolly:

    So to sum it up, I think he would definitely be a top ten pick now that GMs know how good he is.
     
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    Sure, he can play in the NHL but he really hasn't proven himself in Junior yet and probably won't earn the chance. So no way top 5. ;)
     
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    I know that was a joke... but now that your bring it up.... Do you think that if/when there is any kind of lockout next season that Patrice will go back in play in the Q?
     
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    Probably. Or Europe.
     
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    Not only is it weird to jump from 1 year of Junior to Pro its much weirder to be a rookie 4 years in a row.

    Age 15 - Bantam AA
    Age 16 - Midget AAA
    Age 17 - QMJHL
    Age 18 - NHL
     
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