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Oh....I was just going by the 1999 on the side.Pee Wee's are 11-12 year olds, so 6 years later, but the point remains nonetheless
Oh....I was just going by the 1999 on the side.Pee Wee's are 11-12 year olds, so 6 years later, but the point remains nonetheless
imagine if he can play 82 games in a year, hed be at 100+ crazy to think that without that concussion he might have been one of the top point producers from that draft class.30 goals on 188 shots this season. He's also on pace to break his highest point total in a season. Which he set back in 05-06.
He's like a fine wine.
Love this man
Only player who deserves to be in the Selke conversation with Bergeron this year is Barkov and MAYBE Crosby.Have a feeling he's going to be robbed for the Selke again because of injuries, but he deserves it. Will he EVER peak? I really doubt any player will ever surpass him in my life as my favorite athlete.
Only player who deserves to be in the Selke conversation with Bergeron this year is Barkov and MAYBE Crosby.
I think O'Reilly will be a finalist this year, or should be. He's second to Bergeron in my opinion. I hope Bergeron wins it of course, because I really want him to have the record. And I think his play has earned it.Agreed. I mean no disrespect to Barkov at all in my post, he's a phenomenal player, one of the best in the league, and he'll undoubtedly win multiple Selkes in his time. He absolutely deserves to be in the conversation and I think he'll win it because of Bergy's injury.
Crosby is interesting. He's been a very solid two-way forward for a long, long time but has never really been recognized for it. The Selke is a really weird award. It's partially because guys like Kopitar/Bergy/Barkov/etc. are now PPG+ players and are also elite defensively. Bergeron is in his own league defensively, but it seems like whether the winner wins due to points, advanced stats, etc. can be kind of random. Given that the Selke is the "forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game", it should be Bergeron. But in terms of being the best two-way player, Crosby should have won this award every single year of his career. If the award is for a two-way forward, sure, I have no problem with Crosby winning it. But if it still is for the best defensive forward, not sure. But I really do think it's evolved into a two-way forward award.
I would also add couturier to the conversation.I think O'Reilly will be a finalist this year, or should be. He's second to Bergeron in my opinion. I hope Bergeron wins it of course, because I really want him to have the record. And I think his play has earned it.
Agreed. I mean no disrespect to Barkov at all in my post, he's a phenomenal player, one of the best in the league, and he'll undoubtedly win multiple Selkes in his time. He absolutely deserves to be in the conversation and I think he'll win it because of Bergy's injury.
Crosby is interesting. He's been a very solid two-way forward for a long, long time but has never really been recognized for it. The Selke is a really weird award. It's partially because guys like Kopitar/Bergy/Barkov/etc. are now PPG+ players and are also elite defensively. Bergeron is in his own league defensively, but it seems like whether the winner wins due to points, advanced stats, etc. can be kind of random. Given that the Selke is the "forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game", it should be Bergeron. But in terms of being the best two-way player, Crosby should have won this award every single year of his career. If the award is for a two-way forward, sure, I have no problem with Crosby winning it. But if it still is for the best defensive forward, not sure. But I really do think it's evolved into a two-way forward award.
4 selkes, 1 cup, 2 finals, 1 worldThe 4 Selke trophies alone put him in the HoF.
Only one other player in history has 4 Selkes, Bob Gainey. Gainey is in the HoF with 501 points in 1160 games.
Where you guys think Chara and Bergy will rank among the great B's of all time? Gotta both be in the top 6, right?
I think he's been too dominant this year to not get it, even with the injury. Last year I wouldn't have been mad if Couturier got it.
Other finalists should be O'Reilly and Couturier for sure although people have been pushing Crosby and Barkov so much I can see them getting nominated.
Barkov's defensive numbers have been bad for a Selke candidate, both traditional and advanced.
The three finalists will be Bergeron, O'Reilly, and Couturier, with the latter two having strong enough second halfs to close the gap on Bergeron where games played might matter again. At a full 80 games, Bergeron wins by a considerable margin.
191 points in his last 203 games.