Player Discussion Patrice Bergeron II

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  1. bruinsfan1970

    bruinsfan1970 Global Moderator

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    New Thread and hoping it gets Bergy back on track.
     
  2. TMac21

    TMac21 Save us Sweeney

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    Where would this team be if he was producing? At least a few more wins.
     
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    Bergy needs to rest. He's not helping the team right now and the Christmas break isn't long enough for anybody to seriously heal. I know the idea of sitting is loathsome to him (and probably Claude too) but he clearly is not playing like the Patrice Bergeron we all know and love. He's 31 now and it takes longer for the body to heal as you grow older.
     
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    Time to put Bergy on the sidelines and have him help up.
     
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    One play in particular last night made me really really sad.. and worried that Bergeron might be on an offensive decline..

    Bergy picked up a pass and drove hard down the right wing to the outside. He curled around back of the net and had, I believe it was Alex Wennberg checking him. Wennberg pushed him off the puck, quite easily behind the net and just curled away from him, leading to a Columbus breakout.

    I don't think I've ever seen Bergy pushed off the puck that easily.

    What is happening :(:cry:
     
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    JCRO At least I'm safe inside my mind

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    Pardon my ignorance....

    But Im just not THAT worried about Bergy. He'll get it going and realistically they aren't going to bench him. They can't afford to. Even if he does have a bit of a nagging injury. If he can skate, he will skate. Bergy at 50-70% still has more to offer then many in this lineup. The problem resides with management and the lack of scoring depth this team has and while Bergeron can be pointed towards as a factor to that problem, hes not the overall root cause.

    Getting irritated by the thought people are pushing that he is on the decline. I refuse to accept that at this point in time. I respect that it is a worry. But Im not buying it. Not right now.
     
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    5-5 for 10 points at $6,875,000 is one of the worst performances in NHL right now. Just stating facts.
     
  8. Son of Donegal

    Son of Donegal Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.

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    Ok - here's the short and skinny followed by a longer response.

    Fact - if Bergeron was scoring at the same clip as he did last year, the Bruins would have another 12 goals at this point. They have 88 now. 88 + 12 = 100. This would put them in the top 5 in the conference. SO - regretfully, I must disagree that Bergeron's lack of production is not having the most pivotal impact on the Bruins' offense...and in the end, wins and losses.

    Moreover...

    Bergeron is on pace for 24 points. To put things in perspective, he scored 39 points in 64 games the year after he came back from his near-career ending concussion. Perhaps he isn't in the decline, but something is very rotten in L'Ancienne Lorette.

    His lack of production effects the team in many ways including the straight up lack of scoring on his part, the effect it has on his linemates (who should BOTH be on pace for career years given their career trajectories), the impact on the PP which went from top 5 to bottom 3 in one year...and the extra pressure now put on other dudes to make up the difference.

    Lack of scoring depth is an issue - but Patrice Bergeron's lack of scoring might be the #1 issue effecting the Bruins offense today. If Bergeron does turn it around, you will likely see an immediate improvement with the PP and depth scoring. Anything else in the right direction is gravy.
     
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    Now that I've seen proof that Bergy is nursing a major injury, I am so sad for him. Krejci and Spooner need to step up and lead this team to the playoffs - those are the two key guys who can do far more than they have so far. If they can't rise to the occasion and help make up for Bergy's lost offence then get rid of them. Both are kind of unreliable.
     
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    Sorry, proof?
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    They have plenty of centers to cover. The can have Krejci, Backes, Spooner and Moore. Sit the guy if he's hurt. They do this all the time. They played Chara too many times when he was hurt. Now Bergeron. If guys are too hurt sit them.
     
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    What's most concerning for me is that he's not even coming close to approaching the level of play that we've all come to expect from him - a level of play that was on full display as recently as the WCOH. He hasn't shown flashes or any signs that he's turning the corner.

    When your best player is one pace for the worst season of his career, you're gonna be in trouble.
     
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    Read part 1 of this subject or the injury thread. Its been covered. In the papers and pictures.

    Assuming thats enough proof.
     
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    Even without the notices that he's not been practicing consistently, or the picture of him in the boot at the store, it's clear he's hurt. A player at his age and fitness and skill level does not decline this fast.

    I am inclined to think it's something with his ankle or possibly a knee. He has jump going forward in a straight line, but his lateral movement doesn't look good. As for getting knocked off the puck, if he's pushed onto the weak ankle/knee, or it takes some pressure, it's not a surprise. I don't suppose we'll know until after the season (if ever) what is really going on but it's clear he's hurting.
     
  16. Alberta_OReilly_Fan

    Alberta_OReilly_Fan Bruin fan since 1975

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    Couple months ago bergeron was a star among stars. Then he got hurt

    Now it's a couple months later and he's playing the worst hockey of his career

    Where is the mystery here people? This isn't a career downtrend. This is a guy playing hurt

    Now if any of us knew what the injury was we could have an opinion whether or not playing him might aggravate the injury.... whether or not sitting him would speed the healing. We have so much invested in this guy I doubt the team would play him if there's any chance it will hurt his recovery.

    In the meantime bergeron isn't the worst player on the ice... he's not taking ice time from anyone that deserves it ahead of him.

    It sucks that he is hurt... I look forward to his recovery... but this isn't something we fans can fix with our complaints
     
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    Agreed. I'd like to see him sit but I wonder if it's a long term surgery type thing he needs
     
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    So far tonight he is more snake bit than a Hindu basket cleaner.

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    There's got to be a goal in there somewhere?
     
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    They listened :)
     
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    He's back

    Last night was the real Bergeron
     
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    Improved production since the break. Don't think that's a coincidence.
     
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    I agree. Plus playing injured could cause another injury or significantly delay recovering from an injury. Just not worth it.
     
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    He's had done real hop in his legs the last three games. :)
     
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    Rounding into form, good sign.
     
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    I think he'll be the best bruin in the second half
     
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