Sportsnet: Patches to NYI, ROR to MTL almost happened @ Draft

[Kent Nilsson]

To be fair it doesn't really matter. He doesn't have a NTC so what is going to "solve his issues" doesn't factor into the equation.

Sure but its the whole premise around the speculation of him being traded.

 

[boredmale]

Hey, you know the team more than I do. But the question then becomes...why pay a near top-10 pick for O'Reilly, if what you need is a third line center, defense stability and a goaltender ? Why pay such a high price for something that could be addressed through free agency, or via trades that probably wouldn't cost near as much ? Which I guess is another reason not to take Engel's scenario that seriously.

1. I think it would take more then Islanders first rounder and 2 seconds to get ROR, so the idea the Islanders could pull of this trade is just hypothetical

2. I do see advantages to being strong down the Middle, so I have 0 issues putting more money into center and going cheap on wings(which most likely means we don't resign Eberle and/or Lee next summer)

3. I would do the trade just for the insurance we don't sign Tavares

 

[UnleashRasmus]

What if's and who cares. Honestly trading ROR to the Habs without an over payment is the wrong message to the Sabres fans. Seeing him routinely for the next five years could be more of a burden than a positive. So I for one, am fine with it. Montreal's assets are one of the weakest in terms of trading Ryan O'Reilly without as I mentioned a complete over payment on their part.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Props to Engels for breaking into the fan fiction niche.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

 

[Beerz]

Yep. Engles just feeding the beast.

 

[Maffew]

All I know that one way or another, half of the people in this thread are going to be eating some major crow when the season starts. And regardless of who it is, they'd deserve. Lots of strong opinions in here.

 

[Maffew]

Yep. Engles just feeding the beast.

I'm not claiming that Engels has good information here, but The Fourth Period is one of the top three sources I would actively avoid listening to.

 

[Beerz]

I'm not claiming that Engels has good information here, but The Fourth Period is one of the top three sources I would actively avoid listening to.

oh yeah... 4th period sucks too

 

[Captain97]

Yep. Engles just feeding the beast.

Except pretty much every credible insider said the deal to LA almost happened and Sportsnet said nyi almost happened as well. So I'm inclined to believe that the 4th period is wrong.

 

[Boxscore]

Also it was for the 11&12, not just 1 of them

You think the Islanders would trade Wahlstrom and Dobson for Pacioretty?!

 

[A Loyal Dog]

Except pretty much every credible insider said the deal to LA almost happened and Sportsnet said nyi almost happened as well. So I'm inclined to believe that the 4th period is wrong.

Habs management (Geoff Molson) probably paid the 4th period and Brian Wilde off to say those things.

 

[Liver King]

good job on NYI for keeping the picks

 

[ole ole]

Haters gonna hate. I'll believe McKenzie over just about any source.
Oh, and ROR won't be going to the Jabs, enjoy your rebuild

Delusional people will never believe the truth even when it's sitting right in front of them.
ROR the prince won't get a kings ransom like you think he's gonna get. Enjoy the basement again.
Funny how neither M.B , J.B and l.l have yet to come out and deny this.
Maybe because it's the truth.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Delusional people will never believe the truth even when it's sitting right in front of them.
ROR the prince won't get a kings ransom like you think he's gonna get. Enjoy the basement again.
Funny how neither M.B , J.B and l.l have yet to come out and deny this.
Maybe because it's the truth.

lol

 

[The Red Helmet]

lol

I think it's funny that fans and media believe what GM's say in regards to the draft and trading players.

 

[Kwikwi]

If the habs wants to lose they should grab ROR, hes been leading, with his leadership, avs and buf to the lottery since 2010.

 

[truthbluth]

Bulship

 

[darcyRegier]

I think it's funny that fans and media believe what GM's say in regards to the draft and trading players.

So don't believe the organization who not only didn't make a certain trade, but also officially stated that they weren't close to making a trade...but believe TSN/Sportsnet whose entire existence is dependent on getting more people to view their content & sensationalizes the most unimportant things? The OP's link was written by a Montreal beat writer for christ sakes lol.

Remember when the expansion draft was for sure going to be the most trade-heavy event ever? Oh yea. Remember all the build up to a Hanifin-Hamilton swap that TSN insiders were covering weeks leading up to it? Oh yea me too. NHL teams don't share actual relevant present information to these guys, because they don't want anyone to know what they're up to.

 

[ffh]

If this is true Botterill is a fool.

Plus 7.5 mill in cap space. That can buy Alot.

 

[CREW99AW]

Isles offense was tied for 7th overall last season. Not only are they trying to give Tavares a huge raise, they have roster holes in goal and defense.
I am gonna need something more then a Montreal fanboy in the media, to believe this rumor because MaxPac looking for a big, ufa payday does not make sense for the nyi.

It would make sense for the Habs, but not the isles

 

[Scintillating10]

Canadiens' Bergevin came close to hitting all marks during draft weekend - Sportsnet.ca

Basically the Habs were going to trade Max for one of the 1st rounders from the Islanders, and flip that to Buffalo for ROR, but the Islanders pulled out when they had the options to draft who they did.

Interesting in theory, Sabres fans wanted 3OA but seems like the deal would have been done around a lot less.

I wonder if this is something that still happens in some capacity.

Always goes wrong for Habs. Just mistake after misfortune. You would think they would fluke something good after awhile, odds of chance

 

[Scintillating10]

As an Islanders fan if this is true, thank you Arizona and Rangers for going slightly off the board. lol

In all reality if all it cost was our 11th pick and 2 seconds why wouldn't we just trade for O'Reilly.

Do you have the caproom? Tavares remember plus you need a high end goalie

 

[CountKong]

lol

I doubt any trade was close to happening but that quote doesn't exactly support the Tweet's opening statement about the trade.

 

[boredmale]

Do you have the caproom? Tavares remember plus you need a high end goalie

Good question

For starters I am guessing Patches would look for a similar amount ROR makes in an extension but in terms of fitting either

New York Islanders - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Islanders have 32M capspace but only 8F-4D-1G

A Hypthetical Tavares-O'Reilly addition would add 18-19M which would leave us 13M.

Probably means we would have to trade Nelson(3-4M?) fill our roster with 3F who make 1M or less. Pulock gets 2M basically leaving us 8M for 2 Defense(in which case one of those defenseman makes less then 1M) and a goalie