Yes he was fantastic - for 1 season, at age 28, for the first time. Not sure how repeatable that is, vs a fluke "career year" that may not be the norm.
Meanwhile - Pastrnak actually paced him also scoring 95 points - but with 48 goals (16 more) than Panarin last season. He's only 23 years old.
I agree that Pastrnak gets a ton of help from his line. In fact I might say he benefits from linemates more than any player in the league, considering how good both Marchand and Bergeron are. But - he's pretty damn good on his own too, has started his career great from a young age which bodes extremely well for future. I'm not that high on this player per se - but I do expect him to surpass Panarin career-wise for all of these reasons.
Panarin played with Ryan Strome, not ZibanejadI'd argue they're seasons were basically a dead heat last year.
To preempt the "linemates" argument, Panarin played with Zibanejad. Lets stop acting like he's some 4th line scrub getting carried around. Zib had 41/34/75 in only 57 games. Good for leading the league in GPG and a 1.32 PPG. In addition, Pastrnak was without Bergeron for a stretch last year and when he was out there he wasn't always 100% with the hip issues.
Pastrnak:
48/47/95 in 70
1.36 ppg
AS-1
Rocket
4th in Hart
13.2 point shares
Panarin:
32/63/95 in 69
1.38 ppg
AS-1
3rd in Hart
11.4 point shares
Point being, they were as close to a coin flip last year as you can get.
I think the safe bet career wise is certainly Pastrnak. He just turned 24 and is rocketing up in development. His last 4 seasons per game are:
GPG: .45, .43, .58, .69
PPG: .93, .98, 1.23, 1.36
I'd argue they're seasons were basically a dead heat last year.
To preempt the "linemates" argument, Panarin played with Zibanejad. Lets stop acting like he's some 4th line scrub getting carried around. Zib had 41/34/75 in only 57 games. Good for leading the league in GPG and a 1.32 PPG. In addition, Pastrnak was without Bergeron for a stretch last year and when he was out there he wasn't always 100% with the hip issues.
Pastrnak:
48/47/95 in 70
1.36 ppg
AS-1
Rocket
4th in Hart
13.2 point shares
Panarin:
32/63/95 in 69
1.38 ppg
AS-1
3rd in Hart
11.4 point shares
Point being, they were as close to a coin flip last year as you can get.
I think the safe bet career wise is certainly Pastrnak. He just turned 24 and is rocketing up in development. His last 4 seasons per game are:
GPG: .45, .43, .58, .69
PPG: .93, .98, 1.23, 1.36
Guy Carbonneau (Carbs) was a more complex version of both players.
Who would you rather have on your team and who ends up with the better career?
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I'd argue they're seasons were basically a dead heat last year.
To preempt the "linemates" argument, Panarin played with Zibanejad. Lets stop acting like he's some 4th line scrub getting carried around. Zib had 41/34/75 in only 57 games. Good for leading the league in GPG and a 1.32 PPG. In addition, Pastrnak was without Bergeron for a stretch last year and when he was out there he wasn't always 100% with the hip issues.
Pastrnak:
48/47/95 in 70
1.36 ppg
AS-1
Rocket
4th in Hart
13.2 point shares
Panarin:
32/63/95 in 69
1.38 ppg
AS-1
3rd in Hart
11.4 point shares
Point being, they were as close to a coin flip last year as you can get.
I think the safe bet career wise is certainly Pastrnak. He just turned 24 and is rocketing up in development. His last 4 seasons per game are:
GPG: .45, .43, .58, .69
PPG: .93, .98, 1.23, 1.36
Uhhhh what? Panarin has been elite since he stepped into the NHL. He's been carrying the entire team offensively (2 teams) for years now. And he was damn good in Chicago, but obviously didn't carry the team.Yes he was fantastic - for 1 season, at age 28, for the first time. Not sure how repeatable that is, vs a fluke "career year" that may not be the norm.
Meanwhile - Pastrnak actually paced him also scoring 95 points - but with 48 goals (16 more) than Panarin last season. He's only 23 years old.
I agree that Pastrnak gets a ton of help from his line. In fact I might say he benefits from linemates more than any player in the league, considering how good both Marchand and Bergeron are. But - he's pretty damn good on his own too, has started his career great from a young age which bodes extremely well for future. I'm not that high on this player per se - but I do expect him to surpass Panarin career-wise for all of these reasons.
Having a spirited debate over the better player. Who would you rather have on your team and who ends up with the better career?