Past and Present superstars

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  1. Canucks1096

    Canucks1096 Registered User

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    The 1st group are some of the top centers from the 80s and 90s. 2nd list are the centers from this generation. I want to compare which generation is better. Can you rank all the centers from number 1 to number 24 on who you think is the best player.

    Gretzky
    Lemieux
    Yzermen
    Messier
    Sakic
    Forsberg
    Lindros
    Fedorov
    Francis
    Modano
    Sundin
    Oates

    Crosby
    Mcdavid
    Malkin
    Toews
    Getzlaf
    Taveres
    Backstrom
    Stamkos
    Bergeron
    Seguin
    Kopitar
    Giroux
     
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    Gretzky
    Lemieux
    Messier
    Forsberg
    Sakic
    Yzerman
    Fedorov
    Crosby
    McDavid
    Lindros
    Malkin
    Oates
    Modano
    Sundin
    Stamkos
    Tavares
    Francis
    Getzlaf
    Seguin
    Kopitar
    Toews
    Bergeron
    Giroux
    Backstrom
     
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    Possibly the worst list ever. Crosby is 100% better than Fedorov and Forsberg. The 5th leading scorer of all time is apparently not as good as Mats Sundin or Mike Modano. Tavares is not and never has or will be better than Ryan Getzlaf career wise. McDavid has played 1.5 seasons and he's already better than Malkin.

    Did you just spitball without actually looking at career stats?
     
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    In terms of ability:

    Lemieux
    Gretzky
    Malkin
    Crosby
    The rest

    All those two-way centers are hard to rate.
     
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    It's your thread so it's cool but I just have a couple issues

    1) Gretzky and Lemieux should be excluded for obvious reasons.

    2) the 2nd group of players all peaked within the last 5 or so years. But the 1st group is all over the place (Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman 80s, Lindros/Fedorov 90s, Sakic/Forsberg 00s). Doesn't really seem fair that one group is covering ~20 years while the other barely covers 10.
     
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    ... and you're using a 2 decade sample size versus a snap shot of today's top 12 for that?

    Let's just say that one side has it a lot easier in this argument :laugh:
     
  7. Canucks1096

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    The 1st list I just looked at players that started there nhl career in the 80s and 90s

    The 2nd list I just looked at players career that started in the 2000s and 2010s

    I want to compare the players from the 80s and 90s to the 2000s and 2010s

    Sakic played most of his career in 90s. He is only 4 years younger than Yzemen/Lemieux. Not sure how they are 2 decades a part. Forsberg most of the big season came in the 90s. Lemieux started in 84/85 and Forsberg 94/95. If you saying Lemieux is 80s. You need to say Forsberg is 90s
     
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    List is missing datsyuk(most likely others too, didn't check), could go from 2000 for the new guys so closer to real comparison.
     
  9. Canucks1096

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    There are only 12 players on each list. Of course I am going missing some. Not possible to compare every player
     
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    Kinda....

    Lemieux
    Gretzky
    Crosby
    Forsberg
    Fedorov
    Malkin
    Lindros
    Messier
    Sakic
    Yzerman
    Modano
    Getzlaf
    Sundin
    Francis
    Oates
    Stamkos
    Tavares
    Kopitar
    McDavid
    Bäckstrom
    Bergeron
    Seguin
    Giroux
     
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    Are you kidding? This is a terrible list.
     
  12. vicprestige

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    I'll just do this as if it was an all time draft and injuries weren't a factor

    Gretzky
    Lemieux
    Crosby
    Lindros
    McDavid
    Messier
    Sakic
    Yzerman
    Fedorov
    Malkin
    Forsberg
    Francis
    Oates
    Sundin
    Modano
    Getzlaf
    Tavares
    Stamkos
    Kopitar
    Backstrom
    Toews
    Bergeron
    Seguin
    Giroux
     

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