Past and Present superstars

[Canucks1096]

The 1st group are some of the top centers from the 80s and 90s. 2nd list are the centers from this generation. I want to compare which generation is better. Can you rank all the centers from number 1 to number 24 on who you think is the best player.

Gretzky
Lemieux
Yzermen
Messier
Sakic
Forsberg
Lindros
Fedorov
Francis
Modano
Sundin
Oates

Crosby
Mcdavid
Malkin
Toews
Getzlaf
Taveres
Backstrom
Stamkos
Bergeron
Seguin
Kopitar
Giroux

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[the_fan]

Gretzky
Lemieux
Messier
Forsberg
Sakic
Yzerman
Fedorov
Crosby
McDavid
Lindros
Malkin
Oates
Modano
Sundin
Stamkos
Tavares
Francis
Getzlaf
Seguin
Kopitar
Toews
Bergeron
Giroux
Backstrom

 

[Los Patos de Anaheim]

Gretzky
Lemieux
Messier
Forsberg
Sakic
Yzerman
Fedorov
Crosby
McDavid
Lindros
Malkin
Oates
Modano
Sundin
Stamkos
Tavares
Francis
Getzlaf
Seguin
Kopitar
Toews
Bergeron
Giroux
Backstrom

Possibly the worst list ever. Crosby is 100% better than Fedorov and Forsberg. The 5th leading scorer of all time is apparently not as good as Mats Sundin or Mike Modano. Tavares is not and never has or will be better than Ryan Getzlaf career wise. McDavid has played 1.5 seasons and he's already better than Malkin.

Did you just spitball without actually looking at career stats?

 

[NoMessi]

In terms of ability:

Lemieux
Gretzky
Malkin
Crosby
The rest

All those two-way centers are hard to rate.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

The 1st group are some of the top centers from the 80s and 90s. 2nd list are the centers from this generation. I want to compare which generation is better. Can you rank all the centers from number 1 to number 24 on who you think is the best player.

Gretzky
Lemieux
Yzermen
Messier
Sakic
Forsberg
Lindros
Fedorov
Francis
Modano
Sundin
Oates

Crosby
Mcdavid
Malkin
Toews
Getzlaf
Taveres
Backstrom
Stamkos
Bergeron
Seguin
Kopitar
Giroux

It's your thread so it's cool but I just have a couple issues

1) Gretzky and Lemieux should be excluded for obvious reasons.

2) the 2nd group of players all peaked within the last 5 or so years. But the 1st group is all over the place (Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman 80s, Lindros/Fedorov 90s, Sakic/Forsberg 00s). Doesn't really seem fair that one group is covering ~20 years while the other barely covers 10.

 

[The Noot]

The 1st group are some of the top centers from the 80s and 90s. 2nd list are the centers from this generation. I want to compare which generation is better. Can you rank all the centers from number 1 to number 24 on who you think is the best player.

Gretzky
Lemieux
Yzermen
Messier
Sakic
Forsberg
Lindros
Fedorov
Francis
Modano
Sundin
Oates

Crosby
Mcdavid
Malkin
Toews
Getzlaf
Taveres
Backstrom
Stamkos
Bergeron
Seguin
Kopitar
Giroux

... and you're using a 2 decade sample size versus a snap shot of today's top 12 for that?

Let's just say that one side has it a lot easier in this argument

 

[Canucks1096]

It's your thread so it's cool but I just have a couple issues

1) Gretzky and Lemieux should be excluded for obvious reasons.

2) the 2nd group of players all peaked within the last 5 or so years. But the 1st group is all over the place (Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman 80s, Lindros/Fedorov 90s, Sakic/Forsberg 00s). Doesn't really seem fair that one group is covering ~20 years while the other barely covers 10.

The 1st list I just looked at players that started there nhl career in the 80s and 90s

The 2nd list I just looked at players career that started in the 2000s and 2010s

I want to compare the players from the 80s and 90s to the 2000s and 2010s

Sakic played most of his career in 90s. He is only 4 years younger than Yzemen/Lemieux. Not sure how they are 2 decades a part. Forsberg most of the big season came in the 90s. Lemieux started in 84/85 and Forsberg 94/95. If you saying Lemieux is 80s. You need to say Forsberg is 90s

 

[skillhockey]

List is missing datsyuk(most likely others too, didn't check), could go from 2000 for the new guys so closer to real comparison.

 

[Canucks1096]

List is missing datsyuk(most likely others too, didn't check), could go from 2000 for the new guys so closer to real comparison.

There are only 12 players on each list. Of course I am going missing some. Not possible to compare every player

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

Kinda....

Lemieux
Gretzky
Crosby
Forsberg
Fedorov
Malkin
Lindros
Messier
Sakic
Yzerman
Modano
Getzlaf
Sundin
Francis
Oates
Stamkos
Tavares
Kopitar
McDavid
Bäckstrom
Bergeron
Seguin
Giroux

 

[Plural]

Gretzky
Lemieux
Messier
Forsberg
Sakic
Yzerman
Fedorov
Crosby
McDavid
Lindros
Malkin
Oates
Modano
Sundin
Stamkos
Tavares
Francis
Getzlaf
Seguin
Kopitar
Toews
Bergeron
Giroux
Backstrom

Are you kidding? This is a terrible list.

 

[blundluntman]

I'll just do this as if it was an all time draft and injuries weren't a factor

Gretzky
Lemieux
Crosby
Lindros
McDavid
Messier
Sakic
Yzerman
Fedorov
Malkin
Forsberg
Francis
Oates
Sundin
Modano
Getzlaf
Tavares
Stamkos
Kopitar
Backstrom
Toews
Bergeron
Seguin
Giroux