Friedman: Panthers trying to trade Keith Yandle

Sky04

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how much have you watched him? Especially prior to this year??

If you didn't like his ES play then it makes more sense to reduce his role than it does to straight benching him. It was dumb to ever consider benching him when he's so potent on the PP and Florida has no one even close to his ability on the point, Yandle in a 3rd pairing role as a PP specialist is still a better option Riley Stillman.

but, but PP points don't matter!! Like Yandle's offense hasn't been contributing to Florida's last 2 wins right?
 

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If you didn't like his ES play then it makes more sense to reduce his role than it does to straight benching him. It was dumb to ever consider benching him when he's so potent on the PP and Florida has no one even close to his ability on the point, Yandle in a 3rd pairing role as a PP specialist is still a better option Riley Stillman.

but, but PP points don't matter!! Like Yandle's offense hasn't been contributing to Florida's last 2 wins right?

so you haven’t watched him and just came in here to start shit? Got it. Maybe it was all a ploy to light a much needed fire under his ass.
 

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so you haven’t watched him and just came in here to start shit? Got it. Maybe it was all a ploy to light a much needed fire under his ass.

Oh yeah the fire needed to produce the same results on the PP like he always has.
 
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Dread Clawz

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Oh yeah the fire needed to produce the same results on the PP like he always has.

His pp ability has never been in question. It was his play in his own end and not coasting through games, which he has turned around. He's been hitting, taking hits, going into the corners and battling, which is what the coaching staff wanted to see. Even one unnamed Panther from last season called him out and told him he was a horrible teammate. But yeah, they're all just imagining it and you're the expert.
 

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His pp ability has never been in question. It was his play in his own end and not coasting through games, which he has turned around. He's been hitting, taking hits, going into the corners and battling, which is what the coaching staff wanted to see. Even one unnamed Panther from last season called him out and told him he was a horrible teammate. But yeah, they're all just imagining it and you're the expert.

Those factors were always exaggerated, his PP production is what helped them win the game and will always be his strongest asset. The talk about benching him has always been stupid, like Florida has any better options.
 

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Those factors were always exaggerated, his PP production is what helped them win the game and will always be his strongest asset. The talk about benching him has always been stupid, like Florida has any better options.

Are you really gonna be this obtuse? No, they WEREN'T EXAGGERATED. So Q is senile then? Is that it? All Yandle's teammates are just a-holes and out to get him? The leadership group flat out told Yandle to his face in the offseason that he had to be better. But yeah, they're all crazy. You know everything, bro. We're honored to be in the prescence of such a great hockey mind as yourself. Can you send me your autograph?

Florida does have better options if Yandle regresses again. They have 8 other nhl d-men, assuming Juulsen can still play at nhl level. Plus Keeper on the taxi squad who has always been fine when they've played him and has some offensive ability. Stop pretending like you know about the Panthers because obviously you don't know jack.
 

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Are you really gonna be this obtuse? No, they WEREN'T EXAGGERATED. So Q is senile then? Is that it? All Yandle's teammates are just a-holes and out to get him? The leadership group flat out told Yandle to his face in the offseason that he had to be better. But yeah, they're all crazy. You know everything, bro. We're honored to be in the prescence of such a great hockey mind as yourself. Can you send me your autograph?

Florida does have better options if Yandle regresses again. They have 8 other nhl d-men, assuming Juulsen can still play at nhl level. Plus Keeper on the taxi squad who has always been fine when they've played him and has some offensive ability. Stop pretending like you know about the Panthers because obviously you don't know jack.

Yeah please, no one was even close to Yandles offensive ability when Florida realized they're sunk without him on the PP they put him back in the lineup. Like I said you have no one even close to Yandles on the PP, you have 8 NHL defenseman? Right... Florida, known for their defensive depth, good one.

How about Yandles agent publically coming out to say Florida was trying to strongarm him into accepting a trade and that those threats weren't play related? Or do you know better than his agent
 

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How about Yandles agent publically coming out to say Florida was trying to strongarm him into accepting a trade and that those threats weren't play related? Or do you know better than his agent
Yandle himself said that they never approached him about waiving his Nmc. So none of that makes any sense. How the hell would his agent know this is the case? He’s just upset for his client and jumping to conclusions.

no one has ever questioned his ability on the pp. his play in his own end and not putting in the proper effort was the problem. They picked up forsling off waivers (who looked great in the first game btw) and played under Q in chicago, and they picked up nutivaara in the offseason. They would rather play those guys than Yandle because at least they can defend and put in the effort. Ekblad, even Weegar, are decent options on the pp, we still haven’t seen what either are capable of leading the pp in a game situation but it probably wouldn’t be bad. Maybe not as good as Yandle, but not bad either. Forsling was leading the second unit. I actually think Nutivaara could do a solid job, skates rather well and has terrific hands for a D.

now that he saw there’s a legitimate chance of getting scratched if he didn’t pick up his play outside of the pp, along with teammate(s) speaking up, he’s actually playing like he gives a shit and has looked pretty solid overall these past two games. Having him with an experienced physical D in Gudas, and playing him on the 3rd, pending he keeps up this effort then yeah I don’t mind at least riding out the season with him there. Still would prefer to move the contract though.

but the point remains that if the coach feels like someone’s play is a net negative, regardless of being a good pp qb, then he should absolutely have the right to scratch the player if he prefers other options. He shouldn’t be handcuffed due to some stupid streak so now he’s obligated to play him no matter how the player actually plays.
 
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Yeah please, no one was even close to Yandles offensive ability when Florida realized they're sunk without him on the PP they put him back in the lineup. Like I said you have no one even close to Yandles on the PP, you have 8 NHL defenseman? Right... Florida, known for their defensive depth, good one.

How about Yandles agent publically coming out to say Florida was trying to strongarm him into accepting a trade and that those threats weren't play related? Or do you know better than his agent

His agent??? You're kidding me! Lol. Yeah because his agent would never lie...pffffff.....As FrolikFan said, that's bunk. Yandle is quoted as basically contradicting him. So obviously he' s full of crap.

This was a motivational ploy by Quenneville, and it's worked out brilliantly. Yandle is playing with fire and passion. Had Q just accepted Yandle's play, he would have just continued his floating and soft play, and the Panthers are likely not 2-0. And actually Ekblad has looked good on the pp too so far, after not being on the 1st unit for years. If he gets comfortable playing on the pp a lit, he's gonna rack up a ton of points. And the point is goal differential. A struggling pp and good even strength play is better than a good pp and a bad GA. That's still lost on you.

Yes Florida has 8 nhl d-men, maybe even 9.
Ekblad, Weegar, Stralman, Nutivaara, Gudas, Yandle, Forsling, Stillman, Juulsen. Which one of them is not an nhl.d-man? I never said had a top 3 blueline. They do have some depth though.
 

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Yeah please, no one was even close to Yandles offensive ability when Florida realized they're sunk without him on the PP they put him back in the lineup. Like I said you have no one even close to Yandles on the PP, you have 8 NHL defenseman? Right... Florida, known for their defensive depth, good one.

How about Yandles agent publically coming out to say Florida was trying to strongarm him into accepting a trade and that those threats weren't play related? Or do you know better than his agent
Ah yes, the unbiased opinion of his agent. Clearly a better indicator than his HOF coach.
 

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And actually Ekblad has looked good on the pp too so far, after not being on the 1st unit for years. If he gets comfortable playing on the pp a lit, he's gonna rack up a ton of points. And the point is goal differential. A struggling pp and good even strength play is better than a good pp and a bad GA. That's still lost on you.

Yes Florida has 8 nhl d-men, maybe even 9.
Ekblad, Weegar, Stralman, Nutivaara, Gudas, Yandle, Forsling, Stillman, Juulsen. Which one of them is not an nhl.d-man? I never said had a top 3 blueline. They do have some depth though.

Half of Ekblads points this year have come on the PP :naughty:.
3 PPG, Yandle has 2 PP assists and Ekblad with 1 PP helper.
Led by Hornys 2 PPG.
 

FrolikFan67

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Yandle for Colin White and Christian Wolanin
I actually don’t think I’d do that. Yandle has 2yrs left after this and white has 4yrs. I think that’s too long. Connor brown I’d do, same amount of years left. And Wolanin, we don’t have a use for him and he’s still an rfa after this season. I know we’d need to take a salary dump back for Yandle but not something that’s two years longer than he already is
 

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I actually don’t think I’d do that. Yandle has 2yrs left after this and white has 4yrs. I think that’s too long. Connor brown I’d do, same amount of years left. And Wolanin, we don’t have a use for him and he’s still an rfa after this season. I know we’d need to take a salary dump back for Yandle but not something that’s two years longer than he already is
It’s worth it: we can buy out under 26 players for 1/6 a year...keep until Barky and buy him out for 850k a year
 

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It’s worth it: we can buy out under 26 players for 1/6 a year...keep until Barky and buy him out for 850k a year
We’d be on the hook for that for 6yrs (with a negative amount in year 3? So i guess it adds cap back that year? Never seen that before). But that’s a pretty long time even though it’s under 0.9per, idk if zito will want that, I see him finding another way considering he moved matheson without retaining or buying out anyone. I know the nmc makes it more difficult, but still.
 

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Yeah please, no one was even close to Yandles offensive ability when Florida realized they're sunk without him on the PP they put him back in the lineup. Like I said you have no one even close to Yandles on the PP, you have 8 NHL defenseman? Right... Florida, known for their defensive depth, good one.

How about Yandles agent publically coming out to say Florida was trying to strongarm him into accepting a trade and that those threats weren't play related? Or do you know better than his agent

I actually believe this.
 

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