Panthers to retire Roberto Luongo’s number on March 7th, 2020

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  1. robertmac43

    robertmac43 Forever 43!

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    I would argue that he was good throughout, other than this past year. I don't even really think the production is relevant in this case. Luo showed great loyalty to the franchise he came back and played hard and that would have gone a long way with a franchise that has struggle for most of its existence. Finally having a star stay and then come back would have been huge. He is a great player on top of that, it's well deserved IMO.
     
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    whens the last time a player gets their number retired on a team, but they had a better career with the team who didn't retire their number?
     
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    Forgot he had retired and now I'm sad
    Well-deserved number retirement though
     
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    Not exactly the same since Boston also retired his number but Bourque in Colorado maybe?
     
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    Incredibly underappreciated goalie.
    Would have won 2 cups with Vancouver if they actually had a 2nd scoring line.
     
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    Next stop HHoF.
     
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    Are you serious or joking?

    He's got one Jennings, that's it for personal accomplishments.

    He's a good goalie, just not HHof good.
     
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    Were you too young to watch him play? Sure his 'stats' aren't there, but he also played on garbage teams for most of his career. He still had amazing talent and stole plenty of games and was always considered a top 5 goalies regardless of his stats. He's like the opposite of Chris Osgood, who has HHoF numbers but is not in because he played on stacked teams and not many people had confidence in him to win on any given night - no matter how stacked the team in front of him. Lou was a goalie where you knew his team would have a chance to win every night, regardless of how absolutely terrible they were. Anyone that watches a lot of hockey knows this, including the members of the actual HHoF selection committee (Legends of Hockey - Induction Showcase - Selection Commitee) several of whom have made statements about Luongo being one of the best in the world.

    I think he deserves to be in. He definitely has more talent than some of the members that are already there - the bar is not that high, nor is it based solely on stats. Impact players get the nod, and Luongo was an impact player.
     
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    No, I'm not too young to have watched him play. I'm 3 years younger than Luongo. :D

    I just don't think a goalie with zero Vezinas should get into the HHoF.
     
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    Well luckily number of Vezinas is not the be all and end all. 2nd most games played, 3rd most wins, 9th in SOs, 7th best save %. Id bet good money he is a first ballot HOFer.
     
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    Maybe, but he shouldn't be. He was never the best goalie in his career, he never won a Vezina, he doesn't have a cup.

    Hall of fame should be about the absolute best. It's become a joke. Why should there be tens of players every year going in the Hall? It's ridiculous, but it's what it is.

    This is nothing against Luongo personally. I like the guy.
     
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    Winning the Cup is probably the hardest out of the four major leagues. You cant blame him for those early Panthers years, where the team sucked, but he was a beast in net. He is 3rd in wins, one of three goalies to play over 1000 games, and his stats across the board are some of the best in history. He has more wins, SOs, a better save %, games played than some of the all-time greats, but he doesnt deserve to get in because he doesnt have a ring? Or he wasnt the best goalie in his career? There are so many players in all four major leagues that do not have rings, but undoubtedly deserved to be HOFers.
     
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    You value largely arbitrary awards way too much.
     
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    No, I'm just saying he was never the top goalie in his career. That's all.
     
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    What does that even mean? If that is the case, there should only be one goalie, one Dman, one forward in the HOF, for certain time periods, and that is all. So Jagr shouldnt be a HOFer because Lemieux was better than him?
     
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    The circle is complete. Thank you Lu. I salute you!
     
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    Guy was tough as nails. I wish half the players in the league had the kind of resolve Lu has and I'm not even a Cats fan. Not his fault his teams were either missing pieces or choked on him. His number deserves to be in the rafters.
     
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    Luongo is pretty much the only guy in the past couple decades to be truly consistent year to year for pretty much the entirety of his career other than Lundqvist

    that's hall of fame worthy in and of itself especially when you consider that he also played to 40
     
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    Should be when Vancouver are in town.
     
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    All of these seasons look good to me part from the last one.

    2000-01: 47 GP, .920
    2001-02: 58 GP, .915
    2002-03: 65 GP, .918
    2003-04: 73 GP, .931
    2005-06: 75 GP, .914

    2014-15: 61 GP, .921
    2015-16: 62 GP, .922
    2016-17: 40 GP, .915
    2017-18: 35 GP, .929
    2018-19: 43 GP, .899
     
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    His best years weren’t even in Florida. lol
     
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    .930+ is elite
    .920 is very good/above average
    .910 is average

    In my mind at least.

    Number retirement worthy? I think not... but as some have said lower standards to create excitement makes sense.
     
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    Hall of Fame?! Certainly not.
     
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    Yup, over the past 15 years it's basically Lundqvist and Luongo as the best of the lot so both deserve to be in the HOF. Other goalies have had better 1-3 season peaks, but nobody touches their consistently high level of play.

    Luongo is 3rd all time in wins.
    2nd all time in games played.
    7th all time in save percentage (really he's 2nd behind the Dominator as everyone else has 1/2 the games played as he does or less)
    9th all time in shutouts
    2nd all time in saves.

    He's a shoe-in.
     
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