The Question about it is, is Bob the first Panther Goalie with Bad stats?
Answer is No, even Lou as future HOF had bad stats.
And now to say it's a Goalie problem, is a bit over the Top.
Most of the Visitors and User are not the first Year here and DEFENSIV is an Panthers all Year Problem.
Luongo's numbers in 2017-18: 2.47 GAA, .929 Save % with an 18-11-2 record behind Yandle, Ekblad, Matheson, Petrovic, Weegar AND Pysyk, which is pretty clearly a worse defensive lineup than what we have today as we've upgraded from Petro to Strahlman and others have gained experience.
Last year's numbers are irrelevant, Luongo was 39 and as mentioned, playing hurt. Even his numbers in 2016-17 were decent (2.68 GAA and .915 Save %), and that's playing behind the likes of Jakub Kindl.
If you're an elite goalie, you get elite numbers regardless of who's in front of you. From 2000 to 2006 when the Panthers were arguably at their worst in franchise history, Bobby Lou never had a save % below .914 for a season. You're telling me those teams had better defense than this current team? You think Lukas Krajicek, Lance Ward, Brad Ference, Paul Laus, Robert Svehla and Darren Van Impe are better than Aaron Ekblad, McKenzie Weegar, Mike Matheson, Anton Strahlman, Keith Yandle and Mark Pysyk?
I know nobody can answer that question with a "yes" without immediately laughing at the joke. if you can sit there with a straight face and tell me Bobrovsky would put up better numbers with the 2003 defensive core than he would with our current team then we are done here because nothing will pull your head out of the hole you've dug.
It's actually really easy to argue against stats, because they need to be taken in context. Blindly quoting stats is a stupid argument and that was such an ignorant statement. On average, a less than 0.900 sv% is essentially an AHL goalie, but that's ON AVERAGE. The shot quality Bob has faced is above average.
I never said he was an AHL goalie, just that he was outplayed by one.
I don't "blindly" quote stats, I watch every game. Bob makes big saves, EVERY f***ING GOALIE DOES, that's LITERALLY THEIR JOB. Make BIG saves. Some goals are defensive breakdowns, they happen, but some goals are a result of piss poor play from the goalie.
And it's been much more of the latter lately with Bob. His numbers aren't an isolation of 4 games, he's played a quarter of the season and has the worst stats of any starter in the NHL. How you're able to spin that into excuses that the defense is solely to blame is just pure insanity to me.
Again, I stress this, the defense is not good. I've pointed out in other threads the awful puck watching, the breakdowns, all of it. They are not great right now, but last night they played better than usual and Bob couldn't hang in there for them. He hasn't stolen a single game this year and hasn't shown an OUNCE of his value yet if I'm being honest.
ALL goalies make big saves. That's what differentiates and NHL goalie from an AHL goalie. But right now Bob isn't making routine saves and that's a problem. 4 goals a game is a problem, no matter what. No matter how you frame it, it is a massive concern.
Even Freddie Andersen in Toronto behind that atrocious Toronto system and defense has a .912 Save % and a 2.72 GAA.
I don't know how many more facts to put right in front of some of you to keep ignoring. I will stop soon though, definition of insanity and all that....