Pre-Game Talk: Panthers @ Leafs

[Daisy Jane]

Rielly - Polak
Gardiner - Holzer
Granberg - Robidas

that is one sexy defensive core.

 

[Mess]

Simple then, if you are getting value, don't trade him, Shirley.

There is your catch 22.

Leafs and Kessel are struggling so management wants to make trades to improve the team.

However because of Kessel's struggles the offers decline and you're now force to keep him until you can get better a return as good asset management.

The solution is to hope Kessel's play improves and then the offers improve. Welcome to my world as to what I meant with my original post hoping the Leafs can get the best return for a player they are prepared to trade as part of the rebuild.

Kessel's play basically makes it essentially like him having a No Movement clause contract for all intents and purposes in that respect of both sides involved of both buyers and sellers. If Kessel wants to remain a Leaf then he should just keep doing what he has in the past 25 games.

If Kessel snipes a couple beauties tonight against the team that reported to have interest then Tallon's interest is peaked.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Not sure where to post this so posting here.

Lets say hypothetically Bozo or Dion are traded. Do their limited NTCs stay with the new teams or the NTCs are voided?

Just asking this as this may have trade implications.

 

[leafstilldeath*]

There is your catch 22.

Leafs and Kessel are struggling so management wants to make trades to improve the team.

However because of Kessel's struggles the offers decline and you're now force to keep him until you can get better a return as good asset management.

The solution is to hope Kessel's play improves and then the offers improve. Welcome to my world as to what I meant with my original post hoping the Leafs can get the best return for a player they are prepared to trade as part of the rebuild.

Kessel's play basically makes it essentially like him having a No Movement clause contract for all intents and purposes in that respect of both sides involved of both buyers and sellers. If Kessel wants to remain a Leaf then he should just keep doing what he has in the past 25 games.

If Kessel snipes a couple beauties tonight against the team that reported to have interest then Tallon's interest is peaked.

I pretty much gurantee that any trafe involving Kessel at the trade deadline will end up us getting the shortend of the stick.

Better to trade Kessel in the off season or early next season

 

[Tak7]

Not sure where to post this so posting here.

Lets say hypothetically Bozo or Dion are traded. Do their limited NTCs stay with the new teams or the NTCs are voided?

Just asking this as this may have trade implications.

Great question.

I've asked this for years & haven't really found an answer.

My guess is that once the clause is waived it becomes void & cannot be used again.

It is, after all, an agreement between a player and team that negotiated that contract - why should a team up-river be expected to honour an agreement they never signed off on?

Additionally though - if a deal is made that honours the NTC (list of teams), and the player is never asked to waive but simply moved to a team that isn't on a list, then is the clause even used / waived?

It's complicated and it's just full speculation

 

[SprDaVE]

Not sure where to post this so posting here.

Lets say hypothetically Bozo or Dion are traded. Do their limited NTCs stay with the new teams or the NTCs are voided?

Just asking this as this may have trade implications.

The contract follows the player, the NTC is in the contract, therefore the NTC follows them.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

I'm convinced Kessel is going to pot a couple goals to try and impress his new GM into trading for him.

 

[LyGuy]

Finnish-Finnish-Finished for Komarov-Jokinen-Clarkson

hehehehe

 

[Atomos2]

Will be nice to see Kessel light up these kittens and show them how much value he has. The underrating he is getting in the trade thread is simply disgusting and its mostly do to that Tallon rumour of not willing to part with his young players for him.

I hope Kessel destroys them tonight

 

[Mess]

I'm convinced Kessel is going to pot a couple goals to try and impress his new GM into trading for him.

Kessel is on a job interview in this game and his performance the resume.

 

[buttman*]

Just lose.

Pretty confident my wish will come through.

 

[beer123]

Kessel with a hattrick to show off to the Panthers but Leafs lose 6-3

 

[buttman*]

There is your catch 22.

Leafs and Kessel are struggling so management wants to make trades to improve the team.

However because of Kessel's struggles the offers decline and you're now force to keep him until you can get better a return as good asset management.

The solution is to hope Kessel's play improves and then the offers improve. Welcome to my world as to what I meant with my original post hoping the Leafs can get the best return for a player they are prepared to trade as part of the rebuild.

Kessel's play basically makes it essentially like him having a No Movement clause contract for all intents and purposes in that respect of both sides involved of both buyers and sellers. If Kessel wants to remain a Leaf then he should just keep doing what he has in the past 25 games.

If Kessel snipes a couple beauties tonight against the team that reported to have interest then Tallon's interest is peaked.

Kessel has enough of a resume, including the Olympics that the last month is not going to change his value significantly.