Confirmed with Link: Panthers announce new additions & changes to Hockey Ops. staff (Fenton, Dudley & Campbell hired)

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Panthers Announce New Additions, Changes to Hockey Operations Staff

New changes

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[violaswallet]

Panthers Announce New Additions, Changes to Hockey Operations Staff

New changes

I like a lot of these changes: added two former GMs. Campbell was part of the player development staff of Columbus, one of the best in the league.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Mod note:

Comment on the Kitchen situation here, let's leave this thread for the new guys.

 

[HockeyRulez]

The changes look great. Is McKenzie running the D full time now? Cause that can get bad but the changes look very positive

 

[SoupyFIN]

Dudley is the only confusing one, otherwise looks to be solid hires.

 

[violaswallet]

Dudley is the only confusing one, otherwise looks to be solid hires.

Ah, I disagree: I think Dudley is a great profession scout with a lot of GM experience, which should help us given that Zito is not experienced as a full time GM.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Ah, I disagree: I think Dudley is a great profession scout with a lot of GM experience, which should help us given that Zito is not experienced as a full time GM.

imo Dudley has been total dud his entire exec career but we'll see.

 

[violaswallet]

imo Dudley has been total dud his entire exec career but we'll see.

He was great for Atlanta, so I'm biased

 

[ProjectPanthers]

That's OUR old Gregory Campbell, right?

Crazy to see. I can vividly remember him getting drafted by us. Glad to have him back in the org. Sounds like some really good moves happening. A good mix of young and old.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Look at the panthers dragging all you suckers back in lol. Love the moves. Maybe viola and co aren’t complete morons. At least everyone is on the same page now in the organization.

 

[Ghoste]

Look at the panthers dragging all you suckers back in lol.

I know right? At the very least I like that there is change. If Tallon and everyone else stayed and we looked like we were just going to go ho hum it, I would be less inclined to tune in again. Now we wait for roster/draft moves and hope it leads to some success.

That said, with my old age, these guys are still on a short rope. If they sputter out of the gate next season, I’ll unplug without hesitation. Gone are the days where I’ll happily watch every game even if they blow.

-ghoste

 

[batting1k]

Dudley is the only confusing one, otherwise looks to be solid hires.

Disagree as well. Let him go scout, he knows what he’s doing.

 

[batting1k]

Great moves, finally some real hockey ops people in the front office.

 

[SoupyFIN]

Ah, I disagree: I think Dudley is a great profession scout with a lot of GM experience, which should help us given that Zito is not experienced as a full time GM.

Disagree as well. Let him go scout, he knows what he’s doing.

"Senior advisor to the GM" doesn't exactly sound like scouting though.

And his GM/assistant GM track record really isn't all that great.

 

[violaswallet]

Great moves, finally some real hockey ops people in the front office.

Yep. Here is the list of Hockey Ops from least year:
Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations & Senior Advisor to the GM: Chris Pronger
Director of Hockey Operations & Salary Cap Management: Braden Birch
Director of Player Personnel: Bryan McCabe
Special Advisor to Team Ownership/Professional Scout: Peter Mahovlich
Manager of Player Development: Mike Ryan
Manager of Hockey Administration: Sydney Bell
Manager of Team Services: Stiles Burr

Here is the new one:
Senior Advisor to the General Manager: Rick Dudley
Senior Advisor to the General Manager: Paul Fenton
Special Advisor to General Manager: Roberto Luongo
Vice President of Player Personnel & Development: Gregory Campbell
Director of Hockey Operations & Salary Cap Management: Braden Birch
Director of Player Personnel: Bryan McCabe
Assistant to the General Manager: Blake Geoffrion
Manager of Player Development: Mike Ryan
Manager of Hockey Administration: Sydney Bell
Manager of Team Services: Stiles Burr

We are a lot deeper and more experienced. I like the title "Vice President of Player Personnel & Development," it shows that we are taking it seriously

 

[Ghoste]

Assistant to the General Manager: Blake Geoffrion

This reminds me of Michael and Dwight on The Office.

-ghoste

 

[FrolikFan67]

I like the moves, I hope he continues to clean house. I know it’s hard to be excited or have hope as a panthers fan but the changes are good to see.

tallon was here for a freaking decade. 10yrs. To put that into perspective: if you were a child in kindergarten when they hired Tallon, that person would now be pretty much half way through high school and driving by the time we moved on from him. For a lot of people that’ll be the entire history of knowing this team. And is still over a third of the franchises existence.

seeing a change, finally after all this time, is good to see.

 

[KW]

Look at the panthers dragging all you suckers back in lol. Love the moves. Maybe viola and co aren’t complete morons. At least everyone is on the same page now in the organization.

LOVE the moves? Nope - acceptable though.

Maybe Viola etc AREN’T morons? Nope - they still are.

Same page? Nope - I think they’ll still suck and I won’t feel bad for them.

Any NEW loyalty, they’ll have to earn it.

 

[FinlandPanther]

LOVE the moves? Nope - acceptable though.

Maybe Viola etc AREN’T morons? Nope - they still are.

Same page? Nope - I think they’ll still suck and I won’t feel bad for them.

Any NEW loyalty, they’ll have to earn it.

Yesh I do love these moves. They took out the placement fillers and added them with real knowledgeable people. Viola is giving us the tools to win. He’s spending money getting these guys. Yes he’s stubborn and thinks he’s smarter than he is but he’s definitely giving us a shot.

 

[violaswallet]

I like the moves, I hope he continues to clean house. I know it’s hard to be excited or have hope as a panthers fan but the changes are good to see.

tallon was here for a freaking decade. 10yrs. To put that into perspective: if you were a child in kindergarten when they hired Tallon, that person would now be pretty much half way through high school and driving by the time we moved on from him. For a lot of people that’ll be the entire history of knowing this team. And is still over a third of the franchises existence.

seeing a change, finally after all this time, is good to see.

Yep: my first year as a Panthers fan was Tallon’s second: I was a senior in high school. I’ve went to university; worked my first job and am now in the dissertation phase of my PhD...

 

[batting1k]

"Senior advisor to the GM" doesn't exactly sound like scouting though.

And his GM/assistant GM track record really isn't all that great.

Seems to me like you said it yourself right there.

Maybe I’m taking the title too literally, but he’s not filling the role of “Assistant GM”, his title is specifically *advisor* to the GM.

AKA he’s probably involved in most discussions but he probably runs off and does scouting, etc and gives his advice and helps out where necessary.

Look at what Pronger was doing the last few years as an advisor to the GM. I think he was typically at home (St. Louis?) doing pro scouting most of the time.

I think it’s intentional that Joyce is still assistant GM whereas Fenton and Dudley were given advisor roles. To me there seems to be a distinct difference.

 

[Android 16]

Link to Michael Russo's article, "The Downfall of Paul Fenton":

The downfall of Paul Fenton: Inside the GM's turbulent 14 months with the Wild

Steve Dangle Podcast discussing the disaster Paul Fenton in Minnesota. Starts at 16:30

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Yep: my first year as a Panthers fan was Tallon’s second: I was a senior in high school. I’ve went to university; worked my first job and am now in the dissertation phase of my PhD...

Good luck with that

 

[Mogo]

He was great for Atlanta, so I'm biased

He was our GM once and moved up to #9 overall pick to select Petr Taticek. By far the biggest Panthers draft pick bust ever. Made other horrible picks

So I wont give his scouting based on what he did here much. Also really liked Kristian Kudroc.

 

[Sticksandsun]

Seems to me like you said it yourself right there.

Maybe I’m taking the title too literally, but he’s not filling the role of “Assistant GM”, his title is specifically *advisor* to the GM.

AKA he’s probably involved in most discussions but he probably runs off and does scouting, etc and gives his advice and helps out where necessary.

Look at what Pronger was doing the last few years as an advisor to the GM. I think he was typically at home (St. Louis?) doing pro scouting most of the time.

I think it’s intentional that Joyce is still assistant GM whereas Fenton and Dudley were given advisor roles. To me there seems to be a distinct difference.

Isn't this bad? Sounds like your suggesting Joyce still has some say for some reason