Post-Game Talk: Panthers 1 @ Red Wings 2 - 20/2 * 5pm EST - v3.2.6

[KW]

The big difference in let-ups is that when you let up against Detroit you lose 2-1, but when you let up against Tampa you lose 6-1.

Yes, it feels worse against Detroit, because on paper we should beat them 10 times out of 10, but the game is played on ice and it’s weird how teams sometimes let up. I think fundamentally we all want an easy time, only the mentally really tough people rarely let up.

I’m not gonna cry over this one. I’ll see how they respond.

 

[Prominence Problem]

I just find your stance weird. How it counts for one player, but not the other.

Also, I didn't blame this loss on Bob either.

I said it to other people, you see what you want to see. I make my case positive for Bob, because I'm one of the only ones here that does. Many other posters post hatred for Bob, almost like they want him to fail. It's sad really.
How many times is Bob record from the last year is pointed out, that he makes 10 sheets, Etc.

I'm not saying that Bob was perfect tonight, that's obvious. The two goals allowed were pretty weak. The one was off Faceoff that was clearly won by Detroit. This team and face off bewilders me. I don't think he played that bad overall. The team in front of them was flat as hell. But I knew before I got on here that there would just be endless hate for Bobby.
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I am a die-hard fan of this team, have been for a long time. They're playing so good right now. I want to see two goalies rolling bad. I don't understand how people just want to put all their eggs in Judges basket.

 

[Dread Clawz]

The big difference in let-ups is that when you let up against Detroit you lose 2-1, but when you let up against Tampa you lose 6-1.

Yes, it feels worse against Detroit, because on paper we should beat them 10 times out of 10, but the game is played on ice and it’s weird how teams sometimes let up. I think fundamentally we all want an easy time, only the mentally really tough people rarely let up.

I’m not gonna cry over this one. I’ll see how they respond.

This is exactly what I was afraid of. Its hard to get up for the Wings again in less than 24 hours after you just dominated them. I was hoping we would just get a point. If it was me, I'd be playing my guts out vs Detroit everytime. If you do, it's 2 points in the bank. Vs almost the rest of the league, it's more of a toss up.

 

[KW]

This is exactly what I was afraid of. Its hard to get up for the Wings again in less than 24 hours after you just dominated them. I was hoping we would just get a point. If it was me, I'd be playing my guts out vs Detroit everytime. If you do, it's 2 points in the bank. Vs almost the rest of the league, it's more of a toss up.

For sure - that’s when brain and reason wins. When emotion wins, players take the night off. Tonight’s loss wasn’t like the loss at BB&T, Detroit played like crap but still won.

Oh and sometimes shit just happens - Matheson with his first of the year.

 

[iam76]

played way to soft tonight..

 

[RogerRoger]

Please don't put words in my mouth.

Seriously, like 95% of games, you have to score more than one goal in order to win. I don't know if people can get that through their heads. That's hockey 101.
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You lose 95% of the games you let in two bad goals. I don't know if people can get that through their heads. That's hockey 101.

 

[Prominence Problem]

You lose 95% of the games you let in two bad goals. I don't know if people can get that through their heads. That's hockey 101.

If that was the case, then Judge would have a worse record.




Swish

 

[Dr Beinfest]

This loss had little to do with Bob by the numbers. Burn the jerseys.

 

[FrolikFan67]

For some reason it’s like hockey law that after a blowout the next game that team can’t score. I feel like that’s always the case

 

[austropanther]

On the second goal, does anybody find a replay from the opposite side's view?

Larkin did not shoot it hard intentionally, he was going for the deflection. It looks like Brome actually got a piece of it or at least had the perfect stick position for it to irritate Bob. Tough save to make, not as easy as some make it sound.

Those goals were not that bad. Bob was definitely not the reason we lost. Team was tired and could not execute as usual, especially on the D side.

I don't know who wrote it but I like the idea of CD always playing the second game of back-to-backs. In case we are tired we can plant this huge goalie in the net, especially if it is true that they play better defensively with him in net.

Btw Bob was over .900 this game, he gave as enough for a chance to win

 

[GermanPanther]

I'm not really concerned anymore with Judge's stats from mid-January. It's February 20th in a compressed season, what have you done for me lately?

3	2021-01-31	3	26-258	FLA	@	DET	W	W	2	34	32	.941	0	0	59:29
4	2021-02-05	4	26-263	FLA		NSH	W	W	1	25	24	.960	0	0	60:00
5	2021-02-07	5	26-265	FLA		DET	L	L	3	38	35	.921	0	0	59:28
6	2021-02-15	6	26-273	FLA	@	TBL	W	W	4	31	27	.871	0	0	59:43
7	2021-02-17	7	26-275	FLA	@	CAR	W	W	3	35	32	.914	0	0	62:29
8	2021-02-19	8	26-277	FLA	@	DET	W	W	2	32	30	.938	0	0	60:0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Take 5 or 6 Games no matter what you take, its mid Februar and his stats over the or did you like that more?

3	2021-01-30	3	32-132	FLA	@	DET	W	W	2	27	25	.926	0	0	62:40
4	2021-02-04	4	32-137	FLA		NSH	L-OT	O	6	41	35	.854	0	0	64:00
5	2021-02-09	5	32-142	FLA		DET	W	W	1	32	31	.969	0	0	60:00
6	2021-02-11	6	32-144	FLA		TBL	W	W	2	21	19	.905	0	0	60:00
7	2021-02-13	7	32-146	FLA		TBL	L	L	6	28	22	.786	0	0	60:00
8	2021-02-20	8	32-153	FLA	@	DET	L	L	2	27	25	.926	0	0	58:00

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

1	Chris Driedger	26	8	8	6	1	1	19	256	237	.926	2.34	0	486	7	.875	0	80	4.9	2.59	2.1
2	Sergei Bobrovsky	32	8	8	5	2	1	26	234	208	.889	3.18	0	490	3	.375	1	119	-4.2	3.43	0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Bob is just always a scapegoat regardless of how he played. I do understand the reasoning behind it though. His contract brings certain expectations

Bob isn't blamed because of one game, his save% in 60 games with the Panthers is sub .900. Which statistically makes him a bottom five goaltender in the league. Every game is an overreaction with him because every game he continues to play like a league minimum backup goalie and the reality with his contract becomes more unbearable. Combine it with Driedger posting incredible numbers while playing behind the same defense and it's a shitshow.

Couple polarizing stats:

1. Driedger has the best save% in the league for goalies that have played over 20 games within a year and it's not even close. No other goalie is over .930 SV%.

2. Driedger would have to play all of the remaining 40 games this year and have the worst save% in the entire league (J. Howard .882 SV%) during that period to reach Bob's numbers.

Judge would literally have to go from the best to the worst statistically. I can't remember the last time two goalies on the same team were so polar opposites.

 

[GermanPanther]

Bob isn't blamed because of one game, his save% in 60 games with the Panthers is sub .900. Which statistically makes him a bottom five goaltender in the league. Every game is an overreaction with him because every game he continues to play like a league minimum backup goalie and the reality with his contract becomes more unbearable. Combine it with Driedger posting incredible numbers while playing behind the same defense and it's a shitshow.

You didnt see it, i hope you will do is it interisting that Driedger faced more shots and still get a better save% only from February.
Also when Bobs stats was good and still lost, he had to face under 30 Shots on Goal. Under 30 in a Game that get more and more into the aggresive Part. That tells me, that the Player infront of him do what they can do. On the other Side Driedger faced 5-6 shots more on near every Game, what means if it doesnt look a like, the Players would play bad infront when Driedger is in Net.

Its always belongs on hoe you see the thing, Goalie is the last man standing and i was going along the way and agree with Batting.
When you win more with Driedger and the stats tell me they Player infront trust more into Driedger, then what you will do. Go with a Goalie that why no one understand doesnt get it together.
What brings me 5 fashion or highlight saves if he doesnt do the basics.

Sure player will see that different from a Fan or outside view. but that is my opinion, so you has yours. and thats is no bashing opinion on basic fact.

 

[Mogo]

are people actually trying to defend Bob? He has been horrible AND the team plays much worse when he's in the net

It's like they give up because they know he'll let in a softie no matter what you do.

 

[Mogo]

He wasn't that bad this game in all fairness.

He had a lot good moments. But your supposed all-star goalie shouldnt let in 1-2 minimum bad goals every freaking game he plays for 2 seasons straigth

 

[Mogo]

This is why I like using the #1 goalie (Driegs) in the 2nd game of a back-to-back. The offense/defense looked dead tired after the 1st period compared to last night and Driegs might have been able to ALWGAP this one, while Bob would have had a fresher team in front of him for goal/defense support in the 1st game.

I know what you mean but just feels so bad we need to shelter our 10M goalie like a rookie

 

[Penn4Panthers]

Hello from a forum newbie. I've loved the Panthers from the beginning, with having had season tickets. It seems that I am now just starting to understand the strategy of the game. So, please forgive me in my lack of knowledge amongst the hockey experts.

With that said, it is very frustrating to see Yandle give up so many turnovers in our end. I do not trust Sergei as a goalie. When you have the 2nd highest paid goalie in the NHL, you should feel confident with him...not "gee, I hope he does okay". Yep...I agree that he makes some great saves, at times. But for what we pay him, he is totally not consistent.

I never gave up on them, and I never will. I think we will do okay this season.

I pray that everyone stays healthy and safe....

 

[PSLguy]

Hello from a forum newbie. I've loved the Panthers from the beginning, with having had season tickets. It seems that I am now just starting to understand the strategy of the game. So, please forgive me in my lack of knowledge amongst the hockey experts.

With that said, it is very frustrating to see Yandle give up so many turnovers in our end. I do not trust Sergei as a goalie. When you have the 2nd highest paid goalie in the NHL, you should feel confident with him...not "gee, I hope he does okay". Yep...I agree that he makes some great saves, at times. But for what we pay him, he is totally not consistent.

I never gave up on them, and I never will. I think we will do okay this season.

I pray that everyone stays healthy and safe....

Welcome to the boards!

 

[FinlandPanther]

Hello from a forum newbie. I've loved the Panthers from the beginning, with having had season tickets. It seems that I am now just starting to understand the strategy of the game. So, please forgive me in my lack of knowledge amongst the hockey experts.

With that said, it is very frustrating to see Yandle give up so many turnovers in our end. I do not trust Sergei as a goalie. When you have the 2nd highest paid goalie in the NHL, you should feel confident with him...not "gee, I hope he does okay". Yep...I agree that he makes some great saves, at times. But for what we pay him, he is totally not consistent.

I never gave up on them, and I never will. I think we will do okay this season.

I pray that everyone stays healthy and safe....

Welcome to the boards. You’re going to fit right in lol.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Hello from a forum newbie. I've loved the Panthers from the beginning, with having had season tickets. It seems that I am now just starting to understand the strategy of the game. So, please forgive me in my lack of knowledge amongst the hockey experts.

With that said, it is very frustrating to see Yandle give up so many turnovers in our end. I do not trust Sergei as a goalie. When you have the 2nd highest paid goalie in the NHL, you should feel confident with him...not "gee, I hope he does okay". Yep...I agree that he makes some great saves, at times. But for what we pay him, he is totally not consistent.

I never gave up on them, and I never will. I think we will do okay this season.

I pray that everyone stays healthy and safe....

Welcome to hell. You'll never leave.

 

[austropanther]

Welcome to hell. You'll never leave.

So painfully true...

 

[Dread Clawz]

Welcome to hell. You'll never leave.

You're not supposed to tell them it's hell right away...

 

[austropanther]

You're not supposed to tell them it's hell right away...

Why keep their hopes up when there is no hope...

 

[Prominence Problem]

Panthers are third place overall in the NHL.

Just Breath. Woosah

 

[KW]

Panthers are third place overall in the NHL.

Just Breath. Woosah

And the typical panther fan says: “yea it’s third now, it was first, soon it’ll be sixth, then twelfth, then out of playoffs, and we’ll settle such that we get a draft pick number 12. That’s the Panthers we know.”

And only then will everything be all right again....