Panarin vs Svechnikov

Panarin vs Svechnikov


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Section88

Kaner? I hardly know her
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Chances are svechnikov never becomes the player panarin is. Although he certainly has the potential.
 

Hoquei

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Svech is a prospect with a huge potential to be a Franchise Player. Unfortunately he fell into the same draft of Dahlin and this took some of his hype
 

stevo61

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I like Svech and he will likely be more of a goal scorer but Panarin is a franchise player right now and can produce with anyone. 2nd highest scoring forward on Columbus was Dubois who was 34 points behind. Not for a second would I consider moving Panarin for a prospect
 
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Spirit of 67

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It depends on where my team is. I doubt CBJ would do it.

But a rebuilding team would probably. I would.

So I voted yes. Though there is an asterisk beside it.
(its really small and you have to look closely)
 
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tarheelhockey

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Chances are svechnikov never becomes the player panarin is. Although he certainly has the potential.

Scouts are pretty much unanimous that Svechnikov is going to be a Tarasenko-level player. The chances are fairly heavily in the favor that a player with this profile, being the clear consensus #1 forward in a draft, achieves a Panarin level.
 

olli

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On the Jets I'd take Svechnikov mainly for cap reasons. Panarin will be making close to 10 million after next season, while Svechnikov has 3 years at under a million.
 

Laineux

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Scouts are pretty much unanimous that Svechnikov is going to be a Tarasenko-level player. The chances are fairly heavily in the favor that a player with this profile, being the clear consensus #1 forward in a draft, achieves a Panarin level.
Panarin is better than Tarasenko though.
 
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tarheelhockey

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Classic hfboards overrating how sure a thing it is that a prospect will hit his upside.

You take the sure thing here even if he is older and more costly.

How is it overrating to say “scouts’ clear consensus is ________”? That’s just a statement of fact.

Some drafts have a clear consensus #1 forward. That usually results in a star player. This year it’s Svechnikov. It is what it is.

If you’d rather have the sure-thing PPG winger at age 27 on an expiring $6M contract instead of a similar-caliber prospect at age 18 on an ELC, you’re not objectively wrong. Just don’t act like you’re objectively right and it’s somehow crazy to disagree.
 

Crede777

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How is it overrating to say “scouts’ clear consensus is ________”? That’s just a statement of fact.

Some drafts have a clear consensus #1 forward. That usually results in a star player. This year it’s Svechnikov. It is what it is.
First, it underrates the risk inherent in any prospect regardless of draft pedigree. While there are certainly cases for preferring a forward prospect who is projected to be significantly better than an established player, when the two are similar (as Panarin and Svechnikov will be IF Svechnikov hits his upside) then it's almost always wiser to go with the established player.

Second, this is a weak year for forwards. Svechnikov is not on par with other #1 forwards (who all go first in the draft when available). Rather his injury shortened season puts him more on par with someone like Galchenyuk.

Unfortunately, like 2014, this is a weak year to be near the top without getting Dahlin. While the Hurricanes arguably need a franchise forward, this isn't a year when one like Stamkos (who went before Doughty), Tavares (who went before Hedman), or Mackinnon (who went before Jones) is available.
 

tarheelhockey

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First, it underrates the risk inherent in any prospect regardless of draft pedigree. While there are certainly cases for preferring a forward prospect who is projected to be significantly better than an established player, when the two are similar (as Panarin and Svechnikov will be IF Svechnikov hits his upside) then it's almost always wiser to go with the established player.

Second, this is a weak year for forwards. While Svechnikov may be the clear #2 player in the draft, Dahlin is no better than Hedman or Doughty heading into their respective drafts. And just as in 2008 and 2009 if there WAS a true #1 forward in the draft, that player (Stamkos and Tavares) would go first. But it's not. This year is more akin to 2014 with Ekblad followed by Reinhart and Bennett.

That’s all well, but Svechnikov himself is not comparable to a Reinhart or Bennett as a prospect. Again, scouts are unanimous that he is NHL-ready now will be a top-level impact winger.

Nobody’s saying he’s a Stamkos, but it’s pretty much out of the question that he’s going to be some mediocre thing. He’s obviously a budding star, just watch the guy play.
 
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Crede777

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That’s all well, but Svechnikov himself is not comparable to a Reinhart or Bennett as a prospect. Again, scouts are unanimous that he is NHL-ready now will be a top-level impact winger.

Nobody’s saying he’s a Stamkos, but it’s pretty much out of the question that he’s going to be some mediocre thing. He’s obviously a budding star, just watch the guy play.
Sure but he would need to be on the level of Stamkos to warrant being taken sight unseen over an established player of Panarin's caliber.
 

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