Panarin to meet with Avs

[cgf]

If you give Panarin that kind of money then how are you going to pay MacKinnon later?

Mack is getting 15-20M on his next deal, unless things go horribly wrong, either way

 

[Foppberg]

Mack is getting 15-20M on his next deal, unless things go horribly wrong, either way

That's be quite the leap... I'd be shocked at 20M unless the cap explodes in the next 4 years.

 

[cgf]

That's be quite the leap... I'd be shocked at 20M unless the cap explodes in the next 4 years.

If Mack was a UFA this summer, couldn't he (easily) get over 13-14M per? Thinking about it in that light; another 1-2M a year, after 4 more years of cap-flation, feels like lowballing it to me.

Not saying I think he'll hit 20M, but I do think 15M per will be at the bottom end of the fair range for MacK's next contract...unless the next lockout just kills all interest in the NHL from casual fans or we win so many cups in that time that MacK decides to give us a big hometown discount.

 

[SniperOnTheWing]

No doubt in my mind there will be $15M contracts in four years time. Wouldn't surprise me if guys like Jack Hughes will be looking for those numbers out of their ELCs

 

[Goulet17]

If Mack was a UFA this summer, couldn't he (easily) get over 13-14M per? Thinking about it in that light; another 1-2M a year, after 4 more years of cap-flation, feels like lowballing it to me.

Not saying I think he'll hit 20M, but I do think 15M per will be at the bottom end of the fair range for MacK's next contract...unless the next lockout just kills all interest in the NHL from casual fans or we win so many cups in that time that MacK decides to give us a big hometown discount.

McDavid received around 17% of the cap in terms of his AAV at the time of his deal. In my opinion, McDavid's cap percentage sets the upper limit on what any player could seek on a deal. In order for MacKinnon to reach $15 million AAV on his deal (17% cap percentage), the cap would need to be around $90 million, or around a 10% increase.

 

[cgf]

McDavid received around 17% of the cap in terms of his AAV at the time of his deal. In my opinion, McDavid's cap percentage sets the upper limit on what any player could seek on a deal. In order for MacKinnon to reach $15 million AAV on his deal (17% cap percentage), the cap would need to be around $90 million, or around a 10% increase.

Yeah, I suppose the next lockout will really determine this...because a 10M rise over 4 years feels like nothing at all to me, given that gambling & expansion revenues are set to just pump money into the owner's pockets.

And that's before we remember that McDavid's deal was signed coming off his ELC, whereas we are talking about a UFA contract for MacK*. So if things continue the way they are for the next 4 seasons & we win more than Edmonton does; MacK could have a strong case to not be restricted by McDavid's 17%...if he wants to push that.

*a UFA contract on which we may not be able to suppress the AAV by giving him those 7th/8th seasons, that would've given him security well into his 30s, if Henchy's right about what one of the next lockout's big changes will be; a 5/6-year vs a 7/8-year max.

 

[Muffin]

If Florida isn't willing to go above 10M or something we need to jump in with 12M and just seal the deal. We have the cap space, let's spend it.

 

[Foxtail]

McDavid received around 17% of the cap in terms of his AAV at the time of his deal. In my opinion, McDavid's cap percentage sets the upper limit on what any player could seek on a deal. In order for MacKinnon to reach $15 million AAV on his deal (17% cap percentage), the cap would need to be around $90 million, or around a 10% increase.

Plus the 6.5 mil per season back pay for being underpaid for the last 6 years of his current deal

 

[S E P H]

I think Avs can realistically get Panarin, but the only way we're going to get him is if we pay him as the most expensive player in the league with a full NMC or NTC on max term. Would people be okay here if we pay him more than McDavid?

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I think Avs can realistically get Panarin, but the only way we're going to get him is if we pay him as the most expensive player in the league with a full NMC or NTC on max term. Would people be okay here if we pay him more than McDavid?

I would go as high as 12.5 million.

I think that’s too much, but sometimes it takes some wild numbers to get free agents. We are entering a window and with Panarin and another mid-level free agent forward, we are as talented a team as there is in the NHL.

If the ask starts to go to 13-15 million, I think I’m out. At some point it gets a little ridiculous.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Byzantium]

Now it's just sad

 

[S E P H]

Dater off his meds? Just yesterday he said that Avs are one of the final teams and that he has met with us in Denver (paraphasing)...

 

[Foppberg]

Not to mention Burakovsky plays better at RW according to Cap fans.

 

[Ivan13]

Or that one is a 4th liner and the other is a top 5 player at his position.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Burakovsky for Panarin straight up. I'd do it.

 

[Mooserton]

This reads like Dater was looking for any opportunity to backtrack on his Panarin rumors because he knew it was always bullshit.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Ya Burakovsky plays primarily RW

 

[AvsCOL]

Not concerned about the price so much as them acquiring something they already have too much of. The guy is talented, sure, but do we need more middle-6 guys on this roster?

Leads me to believe that the UFA negotiations aren’t going where they hoped. Hope I’m wrong!

 

[AvsWraith]

I think Avs can realistically get Panarin, but the only way we're going to get him is if we pay him as the most expensive player in the league with a full NMC or NTC on max term. Would people be okay here if we pay him more than McDavid?

As long as the contract ends when it's time to pay MacK. 100% yes.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I don’t see how the Burakovsky move could have any impact on a Panarin signing. It impacts bringing in a second/third line guy like Donskoi.

I mean, it’s not like this is the situation unfolding:

Panarin’s agent: “Good news Joe, Artemi is ready to sign with the Avs.”

Joe: “Appreciate his interest, but after signing future hall of famer Andre Burakovsky, we no longer require his services. And oh, on another note, we’re ready to lock down Varlamov to a five year 30 million dollar contract.”

 

[Alex Jones]

PROTIP: Avs were never meaningfully in on Panarin.

 

[UncleRisto]

Never seen backtracking this hard.

 

[AvsRobin]

We dont have a chance at Panarin.

And a Burakovsky trade would obviously have nothing to do with going after a top 5 player in his position.

Dater's hockey takes.. If he actually plays this up as something that made the Avs pull out of Panarin, putting that pressure on Burakovsky, I'll get pissed at him for real

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Never seen backtracking this hard.

Really? Most Dater rumours end this way. Or when something happens he's conveniently in the world's longest elevator ride, one of those elevators that has a complete blackout zone for data.