Proposal: Panarin three way deal (CBJ, CHI, CAR)

[wej20]

Anisimov's too similar to Jordan Staal for this to make sense for Carolina.

 

[cslebn]

Awful for Carolina, who seems to be doing Chicago a huge favor while also sending the best player in the deal to Columbus.

Just to be clear, you said Skinner is the best player in this deal?

 

[Blender]

Just to be clear, you said Skinner is the best player in this deal?

Yes, the best player in the deal moving that's not Panarin. Carolina is essentially paying the price for Chicago to get Panarin in this awful proposal.

 

[cslebn]

Yes, the best player in the deal moving that's not Panarin. Carolina is essentially paying the price for Chicago to get Panarin in this awful proposal.

I don't disagree, Carolina gets hosed. Just wanted to clear up the semantics since other threads have made interesting comments about Panarin's skill.

 

[mikeyp24]

Awful for Carolina, who seems to be doing Chicago a huge favor while also sending the best player in the deal to Columbus.

In what world is Skinner better the Panarin?

 

[mikeyp24]

Skinner only has 1 year left. It would be a deal where the Canes uprade an immediate situation (Skinner to Panarin) for futures. That is a luxury afforded by having a top-3 prospect pool combined with the desperation of missing the Playoffs for 9 straight years. Panarin-Svechnikov could be a deadly duo.

Anisimov is a Cap dump for Chicago. Milano has effort issues which is a no-go for Rod Brind’Amour. Canes have a ton of roster depth and a ton of 19-23 year old talent. They need elite players.

Milano has never had effort issues? His issue is actually he tries to do way too much. When he should just dump in and change he will sometimes try and out skate 4 defenders and then miss a shot. If he works on simplifying his game he is a solid player who game skate/handle/shoot against any guy out there.

 

[Blender]

In what world is Skinner better the Panarin?

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Yes, the best player in the deal moving that's not Panarin. Carolina is essentially paying the price for Chicago to get Panarin in this awful proposal.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

In what world is Skinner better the Panarin?

The best player in the deal being traded for Panarin.

It's a huge pass for the Canes. Don't even need to debate the value which I (and many others) think is bad for the Canes, the pieces coming back aren't filling a need at all. Skinner gets moved for an upgrade at C or G. If it's for a another winger then it better be a good one.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

isn't anisimov a cap dump? couldn't the canes just offer chicago the 3rd they're giving to cbus for him? if that's the case, just hold on to skinner for hope of a better center, if that fails go to plan double A.

In what world is Skinner better the Panarin?

there technically are no 3 way trades in the nhl. if this happened, cbus would trade panarin to chicago for anisimov and a 1st, then would conduct a second trade of anisimov and milano to carolina for skinner and a 3rd.

 

[mikeyp24]

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I was On the 1st page when I responded.

 

[Halla]

so hawks give up anisimov and what will likely be a pick in the 20's for panarin?

this is bad for every team not named chicago

 

[DaveG]

so hawks give up anisimov and what will likely be a pick in the 20's for panarin?

this is bad for every team not named chicago

Yep. It's varying degrees of bad for Columbus (moderately) and Carolina (completely and totally hosed), but it's not even remotely balanced. All Chicago is giving up is a cap dump an OK prospect and a pick that would probably be a late first? I mean shit if all it takes is a bad contract and a first to get Panarin the Canes could offer up a better & younger player with a bad contract, and a better prospect in Rask + Gauthier + 2019 first and it would still be completely hosing Columbus.

 

[thesaadfather]

Anisimov isn’t a cap dump, the Hawks have plenty of room to keep him, he fills a hole for them, and he’s produced every year they’ve had him. I’d love to know why everyone thinks that Chicago first is going to be late. Crawford’s status is still uncertain and Duncan Keith may well be the only top 4 defender on the team. That pick is much more likely to be top 10 or top 5 than even 20.

 

[LarKing]

Chicago needs to throw another valuable piece to the Canes. They are in a rough spot though. I don’t see them being a contender with their defense and they can’t really rebuild while having Toews and Kane still around their prime.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Chicago needs to throw another valuable piece to the Canes. They are in a rough spot though. I don’t see them being a contender with their defense and they can’t really rebuild while having Toews and Kane still around their prime.

Chicago already gave up Sikura, Anisimov, a first,

Carolina in this deal basically gave Columbus Skinner for Milano while also tossing in a 3rd. If any team needed to give more towards carolina its columbus

 

[mikeyp24]

Chicago already gave up Sikura, Anisimov, a first,

Carolina in this deal basically gave Columbus Skinner for Milano while also tossing in a 3rd. If any team needed to give more towards carolina its columbus

Columbus gives up the best player and best prospect/young player in the deal as is.

This just isnt a good deal. Carolina has the younger guys for Panarin but they arent going to sign him. Chicago doesnt have anything really to be the 3rd team in. Just bad fit.

 

[major major]

That's actually more goals (and points) for less money for Carolina. Milano scored 10 less goals in 27 less games, than Skinner. And he didn't play with Kane or even Panarin.

And this is why Columbus probably isn't so hot on the trade. If Milano had Skinner's minutes, he could outscore him. And of course he'll have a tiny fraction of the salary.

Chicago is the one coming away like bandits here.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Skinner is pretty inconsistent player. You won't get a lot for 1 year of him. But as you wish...

If by "inconsistent" you mean 30 goals year in year out then yah. And playing a contract year?

Wait a minute on second though we'll keep him...

 

[Kshahdoo]

If by "inconsistent" you mean 30 goals year in year out then yah. And playing a contract year?

Wait a minute on second though we'll keep him...

Nah, by inconsistent I mean, that he scored 30 or more goals 3 times in 8 seasons. Btw, don't forget to check his last year's statistics...

 

[Negan4Coach]

Nah, by inconsistent I mean, that he scored 30 or more goals 3 times in 8 seasons. Btw, don't forget to check his last year's statistics...

Which was preceeded by a 37 goal season, so put that in you pipe and do you know what with it.

 

[mikeyp24]

I would assume he would smoke it because you said he doesnt score 30 a year and it seems he is right...

 

[Taylorst]

That's a bad deal for Chicago sikura and a 1st pick No Way. Chicago is building for the future and Dylan is rated very high. Panarin would be a rental for 1 year. If Chicago wants Panarin back they can just wait til next July and have him plus the top pick and sikura has a full season under his belt and we have a idea of how good he is or will be.


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