Proposal: Panarin - Stone - Nylander (all signed long term)

[Randy Randerson]

I bet you stone and Duchene both sign long term deals. Karlsson is the one that will leave.

do you think that's even close to enough for the Sens to be a good team? Seems like rebuild territory to me

 

[SensFactor]

do you think that's even close to enough for the Sens to be a good team? Seems like rebuild territory to me

I bet you they will be a fringe playoff team this year.

 

[Randy Randerson]

I bet you they will be a fringe playoff team this year.

if Karlsson is electric, there's a chance of that, but he's the face of the team and you said you think he's leaving

 

[Liferleafer]

I bet you stone and Duchene both sign long term deals. Karlsson is the one that will leave.

Not to be a doosh nozzle here, but if Stone wanted to sign long term in Ottawa, why didn't he?

 

[SensFactor]

Not to be a doosh nozzle here, but if Stone wanted to sign long term in Ottawa, why didn't he?

Becuase he wants to see what happens with Karlsson trade. That's the big question mark. If sens get a decent return, that not only entices stone to stay and gets him the "C" but also encourages Duchene and others next year. Plus he know he has Jan onwards to see how the team will shape out.

 

[SensFactor]

if Karlsson is electric, there's a chance of that, but he's the face of the team and you said you think he's leaving

He's not the only one that scores and one can argue his defensive lapses costs us games too. You forget to mention that the Sens will not just give away karlsson.His trade return will have impact to the team also. Sens will get their stud young player or they won't trade.

 

[Randy Randerson]

He's not the only one that scores and one can argue his defensive lapses costs us games too. You forget to mention that the Sens will not just give away karlsson.His trade return will have impact to the team also. Sens will get their stud young player or they won't trade.

I don't think it's reasonable to say that a guy who just got voted the best player in the league at his position costs you near as many games as he wins you, he's as good as it gets so replacing him with literally anyone makes you a worse team, from what was already a bad team.

Karlsson will bring a big return, but I would guess that it would heavily revolve around future assets unless he's signed to a long extension because otherwise the acquiring team would be getting him to go for a short cup run and trading an equivalent roster asset would be a lateral move in terms of improving their teams' chances of winning a cup - if he's a rental, he gets the kind of return that rentals get, picks & prospects

anyway, if you're projecting improvement on the Sens right now, I would say that's a really optimistic view. There is a lot of problems to deal with in Ottawa at the moment

 

[DoobieDubas]

a fringe playoff team? lol your going to give colorado hughes on a platter. Look at your division you play in and the top teams in that division. Even the actual fringe playoff teams like florida would decimate your team. Ottawa will be bottom 5 in the nhl for the next 3 years minimum.

 

[SensFactor]

a fringe playoff team? lol your going to give colorado hughes on a platter. Look at your division you play in and the top teams in that division. Even the actual fringe playoff teams like florida would decimate your team. Ottawa will be bottom 5 in the nhl for the next 3 years minimum.

LOL puck hasn't even dropped yet. How about we bet on it? If the sens are a botttom give team this year in the league I'll leave these boards and if they aren't you leave.

 

[major major]

LOL puck hasn't even dropped yet. How about we bet on it? If the sens are a botttom give team this year in the league I'll leave these boards and if they aren't you leave.

I'd love to know which teams you think the Sens are better than.

 

[Halla]

Toronto has to add here, they are getting by far the best player of the 3. I think Ottawa and Columbus could get more in separate deals.

They are also giving up by far the youngest guy, and the only one not a pending UFA after the season

at the same age nopody even knew who panarin or stone were. they were both years away from making an impact at the nhl

 

[DoobieDubas]

LOL puck hasn't even dropped yet. How about we bet on it? If the sens are a botttom give team this year in the league I'll leave these boards and if they aren't you leave.

Absolutely, Deal.

I hope it doesn't hit you to hard when you realize your team is rubbish. I mean that in a good way.

 

[Qward]

personally I am willing to bet no one from Ottawa gets traded until the deadline. They need to finish mid round and not dead last.

The team is such a joke right now that other fan bases don't even laugh at the Sens now, they pity them. If the Sens lose the 1st overall to Colorado, it doesn't matter how much better the future gets, that deal will haunt them.

 

[DoobieDubas]

personally I am willing to bet no one from Ottawa gets traded until the deadline. They need to finish mid round and not dead last.

The team is such a joke right now that other fan bases don't even laugh at the Sens now, they pity them. If the Sens lose the 1st overall to Colorado, it doesn't matter how much better the future gets, that deal will haunt them.

Question:

Would you as a sens fan rather of given up your first rounder this year or next year. Next year would be assuming you traded ek and the gang before obviously to ensure the tank is full force?

No offence to brady thachuck wasn't very high on him compared to other players available but whats your opinion because if you guys had traded ek and the gang before this year it would almost be a guarantee bottom 1-3 finish.

 

[SensFactor]

Absolutely, Deal.

I hope it doesn't hit you to hard when you realize your team is rubbish. I mean that in a good way.

Let's do it then. Don't back out now. Keep that crystal ball of yours close by. I'm confident in my team. Hope it doesn't hit your hard when you are wrong.

 

[SensFactor]

I'd love to know which teams you think the Sens are better than.

Puck hasn't dropped yet. Take my bet.

 

[Halla]

If Nylander is willing to sign for 6.5, but Panarin is looking for 10..i think the leafs pass

 

[Liferleafer]

personally I am willing to bet no one from Ottawa gets traded until the deadline. They need to finish mid round and not dead last.

The team is such a joke right now that other fan bases don't even laugh at the Sens now, they pity them. If the Sens lose the 1st overall to Colorado, it doesn't matter how much better the future gets, that deal will haunt them.

I say this seriously, without taking shots....as a fan of a team that gave up #2 and #9 picks in the same deal, you are correct....you will never live down giving up #1.

 

[major major]

I say this seriously, without taking shots....as a fan of a team that gave up #2 and #9 picks in the same deal, you are correct....you will never live down giving up #1.

I say this seriously, without taking shots....as an economist, you guys are wrong....Ottawa has already given it up. Whether they finish dead last or 10th last they already gave up their shot at the #1OA. They're not looking good either way.

 

[ole ole]

Leafs aren't going to pay to downgrade their D (move Zaitsev for someone cheaper as per OP) in order to upgrade their already potent offense.

Downgrade their D from Zaitsev. How much lower can you downgrade from Zaitsev

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Downgrade their D from Zaitsev. How much lower can you downgrade from Zaitsev

Pretty easy, you just trade him to your team and he becomes a top pairing guy.

 

[Nizdizzle]

Downgrade their D from Zaitsev. How much lower can you downgrade from Zaitsev

Much. Maybe you don't watch much hockey outside of Alberta, but Zaitsev was a top 4 dman on a 106 point team.