Proposal: Palmieri to Pittsburgh

[Puckclektr]

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IDK they all look pretty good to me. Palmieri is 30, a UFA, and could need a 5 year+ term contract to re-sign. Without knowing what exactly he'd take as a UFA all of those are decent trade packages.

Judging by last off-season and Covid I’m willing to bet Palmeiri is not gonna get what he’s worth. Especially when there are only a few teams that have the room to sign him. Most teams are trying to shed cap. How many more offensive prospects do we need? I’d rather take the chance and sign him for cheap if we can. poulin and moving up maybe a dozen spots is not worth a proven KP. I’m banking in him wanting to stay.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Does anyone understand what the word strategy means?

3 year remaining cup window means you don’t care about any futures in those 3 years. Pens need all NHL ready players for 3 years.

This is it for the Penguins. Last cup window for a long time.

Some think their window is already closed.

 

[Hisch13r]

I want to re-sign him first and foremost. I look at what Dadonov got and expect that Palmieri will get slightly more. Whether it's an extra year or an extra million I'm not sure but I don't see him getting anything crazy in this market.

 

[Jerkbait]

He would provide a few things the Pens need:

A fit at RW with Crosby or Malkin.
A presence on the left half boards to help the PP.

He would not fit well with sid. The real question is can he play with malkin?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

He would provide a few things the Pens need:

A fit at RW with Crosby or Malkin.
A presence on the left half boards to help the PP.

LOL. I thought Crosby/Malkin farted roses and unicorns and could turn any winger into a 40 goal scorer

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

LOL. I thought Crosby/Malkin farted roses and unicorns and could turn any winger into a 40 goal scorer

I don't know any Pens fan who's said this.

 

[SEALBound]

I don't know any Pens fan who's said this.

I think he was kidding as most of us have practically gone out of our way to suggest that it isn't true.

 

[OCPenguin]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

Stupid to send Poulin and Poulin and a first for him.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

Terrible trades for Pens. Why give that up for a rental? Is this Ray Shero? Don't like giving up young assets for a rental. Rather trade for someone with term and in primes.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Rather Devils keep KP if not no interest in Zucker.....Kapanen or the picks I would be more for but do not see Pitt trading Kapanen after giving up a first for him already unless they have buyers regret and know it's a bad fit....

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

No to all.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Terrible trades for Pens. Why give that up for a rental? Is this Ray Shero? Don't like giving up young assets for a rental. Rather trade for someone with term and in primes.

Of course we'd rather get players with term and in their primes. Unfortunately you can't have everything, and we've had a Kessel-sized hole on our PP for a year and a half.

How many skilled RH shot wingers who could help our top 6 and PP are available? How many of them are in their primes with term? If there's anyone, do we have the assets to get them?

Palmieri wouldn't necessarily be a rental either.

 

[BomaLightDevils]

KK is 24 years old, Palms is 30. How is he not a fit for NJ timeline?

KK signed for 1 more years...then you sign him to a 5 year deal for his 26-30 year old seasons. So you would have him for 6ish years.

He would be a "vet" for the "now" kids in a few years. the last 2+ years(160 games) he is on a 45 pt pace/82 games. Nothing crazy...but very good depth. And his speed fits perfectly with ow NJ plays.

What I see the devils lack in their top 9 is a tough goal scoring veteran, isn’t that palms??

 

[Zippy316]

What I see the devils lack in their top 9 is a tough goal scoring veteran, isn’t that palms??

Devils need a more simple minded grind it out forward rather than today’s version of Palmieri at this point. Palmieri produces but he isn’t solid shift-in-shift-out forward and doesn’t seem to work too well with Hughes or Hischier.

I wouldn’t mind doing Zucker for Palmieri. Maybe the Devils add in an extra forward prospect like Seney to give the Penguins a long-term prospect to justify a deal.

Zucker + 3rd/4th for Seney + Palmieri could be a smart deal for both sides.

Devils will have a top six sized hole for a veteran forward if Palmieri leaves. Devils don’t seem to be an attractive UFA destination so getting Zucker is a solid lateral move.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You should probably keep the 2022 1st

 

[10Ducky10]

Jansen Harkins and a 4th for KP.

 

[hidek91]

Jansen Harkins and a 4th for KP.

Brett Seney, Michael McLeod and 6th for Scheifele.

 

[OCPenguin]

Of course we'd rather get players with term and in their primes. Unfortunately you can't have everything, and we've had a Kessel-sized hole on our PP for a year and a half.

How many skilled RH shot wingers who could help our top 6 and PP are available? How many of them are in their primes with term? If there's anyone, do we have the assets to get them?

Palmieri wouldn't necessarily be a rental either.

How about we stand pat and then make moves in the offseason like dealing Malkin and Letang if possible instead of adding to a team that isn't a contender.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

How about we stand pat and then make moves in the offseason like dealing Malkin and Letang if possible instead of adding to a team that isn't a contender.

I think this core deserves to have it's best chance to win again before dismantling it, which includes filling glaring roster holes.

The Penguins aren't going to have these kinds of talents again for awhile.

 

[devils29]

Jansen Harkins and a 4th for KP.

Lol wat

 

[Flyer lurker]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

Zucker- NJD can do better by trading KP for picks and singing free agent,
Kapanen- That is a fair offer.
Mccann and Poulin Mccann is not a needle mover for me.
Poulin and 1 get back 2. Best offer and the one I would pick if NJD.

 

[OCPenguin]

I think this core deserves to have it's best chance to win again before dismantling it, which includes filling glaring roster holes.

The Penguins aren't going to have these kinds of talents again for awhile.

How about no. We have wasted alot of assets the last three years with this core to win again and its failed miserably. Time to keep picks and prospects and unload Malkin and Letang. Why prolong this crap? We have glaring needs with them, so ...

This organization is where it is relative to farm system because our former GM made horrid decisions trying to fix the glaring holes. That didn't work. We have no cap and few assets.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

How about no. We have wasted alot of assets the last three years with this core to win again and its failed miserably. Time to keep picks and prospects and unload Malkin and Letang. Why prolong this crap? We have glaring needs with them, so ...

This organization is where it is relative to farm system because our former GM made horrid decisions trying to fix the glaring holes. That didn't work. We have no cap and few assets.

Our former GM made a lot of mistakes, including misidentifying problem areas, and he wasted a lot of assets in that way.

If you use assets to address real problems, like the PP and a skilled wing for Malkin, then you give the core the best chance to succeed.

Again, the Pens aren't going to see a core this talented again for a long, long time. It's been the most successful core of this era, and they deserve the opportunity to see what they can do this year when supported properly.

 

[OCPenguin]

Our former GM made a lot of mistakes, including misidentifying problem areas, and he wasted a lot of assets in that way.

If you use assets to address real problems, like the PP and a skilled wing for Malkin, then you give the core the best chance to succeed.

Again, the Pens aren't going to see a core this talented again for a long, long time. It's been the most successful core of this era, and they deserve the opportunity to see what they can do this year when supported properly.

No, its time to break it up and not screw around anymore. I wish Penguin fans would realize it. Same stupid move the Old GM made. Don't care if they don't see a core like this. Malkin and Letang both aren't valuable enough to hold onto anymore. If you can get something for them, you move them and get assets. We aren't a contender.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

No, its time to break it up and not screw around anymore. I wish Penguin fans would realize it. Same stupid move the Old GM made. Don't care if they don't see a core like this. Malkin and Letang both aren't valuable enough to hold onto anymore. If you can get something for them, you move them and get assets. We aren't a contender.

We fundamentally disagree on these players and where the old GM went wrong.

If you can show me deals where JR made real efforts to bring in players to help the PP, I'll happily concede. But we both know he didn't.