Proposal: Palmieri to Pittsburgh

[Dipsy Doodle]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

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[YP44]

You really like Palmeri

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

You really like Palmeri

He would provide a few things the Pens need:

A fit at RW with Crosby or Malkin.
A presence on the left half boards to help the PP.

 

[SEALBound]

Zucker for Palmieri makes sense in a vacuum as a 1:1 swap but Zucker is signed for 3yrs and Pams will be a UFA at seasons end. We gave up a lot for Zucker so I'm not sure dumping that for a UFA is the smartest thing unless there was something else coming back.

That said, NJ has some decent young guys that could even the value. Maltsev, Foote, Boqvist, Merkley...

 

[Puckclektr]

Jersey passes on all of those. Quite easily. What do any of those do to benefit the Devils?

 

[hoyster]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

Maybe
I wouldn't
No
Absolutely no

My thoughts off the top of my head. Pens can't afford to trade their top prospect and their 2022 1st (which could even be a lottery pick) for a rental like Palmieri. I know they want to win now, but they have to think about the future at least a little.

 

[Gecklund]

Jersey passes on all of those. Quite easily. What do any of those do to benefit the Devils?

A top prospect and a first in a good draft for the last one. A top prospect and a good young C for the third one. A replacement younger top 6 winger in the second. A similar winger signed beyond next season in the first. All of these for someone who may or may not resign.

 

[Nico Hischier]

If Pitt trades for palms and he is a fit then I would bet they end up resigning him

 

[Puckclektr]

A top prospect and a first in a good draft for the last one. A top prospect and a good young C for the third one. A replacement younger top 6 winger in the second. A similar winger signed beyond next season in the first. All of these for someone who may or may not resign.

Are we really getting a first when we are giving up our second. Or are we just moving up in the draft? I would rather try to re-rign Palmeiri at a time where players are getting paid considerably less due to Covid then get another young forward. We have plenty of young forwards and I would rather have a proven one at a reasonable cost.

 

[My3Sons]

If NJ moves Palmieri it's likely only after they fall out of the playoff race. He's just gotten his game back together after a tough start and I imagine that NJ wants to see how things go from here before making any decisions on Palmieri.

 

[hidek91]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

As a Devils fan, I don't think that Zucker/Kapanen fit our timeline that much better than Palmieri, I'd actually like to bet on a Pens' 1st in 2022 but wouldn't give up 2nd in that deal.

 

[SEALBound]

As a Devils fan, I don't think that Zucker/Kapanen fit our timeline that much better than Palmieri, I'd actually like to bet on a Pens' 1st in 2022 but wouldn't give up 2nd in that deal.

Given the age of your best players, how does a 30yo Palmieri fit better than a 24yo Kapanen?

 

[Tripod]

As a Devils fan, I don't think that Zucker/Kapanen fit our timeline that much better than Palmieri, I'd actually like to bet on a Pens' 1st in 2022 but wouldn't give up 2nd in that deal.

KK is 24 years old, Palms is 30. How is he not a fit for NJ timeline?

KK signed for 1 more years...then you sign him to a 5 year deal for his 26-30 year old seasons. So you would have him for 6ish years.

He would be a "vet" for the "now" kids in a few years. the last 2+ years(160 games) he is on a 45 pt pace/82 games. Nothing crazy...but very good depth. And his speed fits perfectly with ow NJ plays.

 

[hidek91]

Given the age of your best players, how does a 30yo Palmieri fit better than a 24yo Kapanen?

Palmieri is also a much better winger. However, the comment was mostly aimed at Zucker.

 

[hidek91]

KK is 24 years old, Palms is 30. How is he not a fit for NJ timeline?

KK signed for 1 more years...then you sign him to a 5 year deal for his 26-30 year old seasons. So you would have him for 6ish years.

He would be a "vet" for the "now" kids in a few years. the last 2+ years(160 games) he is on a 45 pt pace/82 games. Nothing crazy...but very good depth. And his speed fits perfectly with ow NJ plays.

As I replied above, the comment was mainly aimed at Zucker but still I believe that e. g. Holtz and Mercer fit our timeline better than Kapanen does. Also, Kapanen produced very well playing with elite centers, same as Johnsson did. And we got Johnsson for a B prospect.

Meanwhile, Palmieri has produced very well, no matter who he played with.

 

[Tripod]

As I replied above, the comment was mainly aimed at Zucker but still I believe that e. g. Holtz and Mercer fit our timeline better than Kapanen does. Also, Kapanen produced very well playing with elite centers, same as Johnsson did. And we got Johnsson for a B prospect.

Meanwhile, Palmieri has produced very well, no matter who he played with.

Gotcha.

Palms is one of those guys who has been underrated thru the years. Always seems to score against us...lol. He picked up right where Elias left off.

 

[Will Hunting]

Overpayments everywhere, other than maybe Zucker.

 

[devils29]

only one Id be interested in is Poulin + 1st

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Jersey passes on all of those. Quite easily. What do any of those do to benefit the Devils?

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IDK they all look pretty good to me. Palmieri is 30, a UFA, and could need a 5 year+ term contract to re-sign. Without knowing what exactly he'd take as a UFA all of those are decent trade packages.

 

[Gurglesons]

Yikes.

 

[TBF1972]

Zucker for Palmieri makes sense in a vacuum as a 1:1 swap but Zucker is signed for 3yrs and Pams will be a UFA at seasons end. We gave up a lot for Zucker so I'm not sure dumping that for a UFA is the smartest thing unless there was something else coming back.

That said, NJ has some decent young guys that could even the value. Maltsev, Foote, Boqvist, Merkley...

I doubt NJ would have interest in Zucker in a one for one swap. Much less, if you ask for a prospect on top of it.

 

[Strakanator]

Does anyone understand what the word strategy means?

3 year remaining cup window means you don’t care about any futures in those 3 years. Pens need all NHL ready players for 3 years.

This is it for the Penguins. Last cup window for a long time.

 

[Boondock]

Overpayments everywhere, other than maybe Zucker.

Zucker is 29 and is a 20 goal, 40pt player getting paid $5.5 for 3 seasons. Palmieri makes under $5, has averaged over 25 goals a year and 50+ pts over the past 4-5 seasons. KP plays on the PP and the PK. Palmieri is the better player by a margin. Yes KP will need a contract after this year, but that Zucker cap hit is not good, I wouldn't want it in exchange for KP. The devils are better off getting a 1st than be saddled with the Zucker contract.

 

[T1K]

I don’t see why the Pens should pursue any of these trades. KP is a fine player, but I’m not at all interested if that’s the cost.

 

[Habs10025]

Interested in exploring different trade scenarios for Palms if NJ continues to struggle.

Zucker for Palmieri
Kapanen for Palmieri
McCann and Poulin for Palmieri
Poulin and 2022 1st for Palmieri and 2022 2nd

Depending on whether NJ wants to weight things more heavily towards youth, futures, or cost certainty.

Pittsburgh aren't trading players with term like Kapanen , McCann , Zuker or their 1st rd pick , 2nd rd pick or their best prospect Poulin for Palmieri who's unrestricted after this season.