P. Kane defines the modern forward. Who defines the modern D?

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    Wouldn't it depend on the size and type of player?

    I don't hear many of the bigger forwards coming in saying they model their game on Kane.
     
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    Eric Gubranson. He's big tough guy, long reach good speed too.
     
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    If I were a young defensemen with NHL aspirations, I'd model my game after Jack Johnson. You can suck at your job and still keep getting hired.
     
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    Petro and Josi have been mentioned plenty... Because they're the right answer.

    I agree with the poster who said Hedman is a little too unique. The F example was Kane after all, not Sid or Ovi.
     
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    P. Kane only defines bad behavior. Mc and Mac define the perfect forward today.
     
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    In recent years most defence prospects entering the league talk about modeling their game after Karlsson, Keith, and Doughty.

    Different styles for different prospects.

    Hardly anyone has Hedman’s size, so he doesn’t really fit for this question.
     
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    Someone like Maker. The game has become all about speed, agility, and overall movement. Slightly undersized defensenen who can move and pass are the modern day defensemen.
     
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    People saying Hedman are crazy. He is the only guy combining the skill, speed, hands, two-way play AND he’s a monster physically. There aren’t going to be many players like him, ever.
     
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    Correct. Most defenseman can't model their game off of Hedman because of his physical attributes. Unless you are literally close to a mold of him, you can't play the game the same way and dominates like he does. I think Petro and Josi are the current right answers. Keith and Doughty a few years ago.

    But you can't just 'be like' McD and MacK. They both have physical attributes that most players don't possess and thus can't harness the same abilities. I agree players may WANT to play like them but McD has an insane combination of size, speed, skill. Because he's a condor on the ice he can accelerate and burn past players like no other. Because of his long reach he can make plays that others just can't do. Same with MacK with his size and skating and physicality. If you don't have those god given gifts you can't just try to play like those guys.
     
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    Disagree with your original premise most vociferously. Patrick Kane's game is nothing new and many players would not attempt to model their game after his.
     
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    Must not listen to many interviews with prospects.
     
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    Josi for me.

    He seems poised for a very lengthy, productive career well into his 30's.
     
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    Guys coming into the league now probably modelled their game after Doughty.
     
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    I'm 25. The golden standards growing up were guys like Keith, Seabrook, Weber, Chara, Doughty, Suter.

    Players of prospect age (say 16 to 20) probably modeled after them and the guys who came shortly after, like EK65, Pietrangelo, Hedman, Josi.

    I do find it unlikely that someone would model their game after a guy like EK65 for the simple reason that you require the tools. Like, you can't randomly decide to model your game after McDavid's, because he has insane physical tools.
     
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    guys like Josi, Pietrangelo, and Slavin would be pretty high up on my list.
     
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    I see them as the epitome of modern defenders as well.
     
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    This may be a copout, but I feel that a young defenseman’s nationality or heritage will play a significant role in who they look up to and/or try to emulate.
     
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    Thanks for the laugh. I've never heard anyone compare him to Pronger until now. Good but not great?
     
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    Great answer. I’d think any D prospect would hope to have the movement of Makar or size of Hedman, but for a realistic player to model- ya, that sounds spot on.
     
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    That's not the question though. Hard to mold your game after McDavid when his skating is the best in nhl history and hockey sense off the charts. His strengths are too unique.
     
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    Lidstrom. His game is timeless.
     
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    Gotta be Hedman. Huge and great at both ends
     
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    Hedman is a special case, can't call him a defining defensemen when people can't replicate his size. Even though his play has dropped off pretty significantly, I'd say the answer is still Karlsson. Young defensemen entering the league now would have grown up modeling their game after him in his prime. Next generation it will probably be Makar.
     
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    Adam Fox seems to be right in the modern mold. Mid sized (Makar and Hughes aren't the formula, they're tiny. Most top defensemen are still 6 feet or so at least). Great skating, extremely good passing skills and very strong stick work. Every player's physical game is going to be entirely different from the next, no mold on that front.
     
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