GDT: OVER THE LINE! - Devils @ Stars, 8:30 PM, MSG

[Bleedred]

though i don't think he's quite as bad as sal was that last season

I don’t think he’s that bad yet. Salvador’s last couple seasons were very bad.

I’d like to see Greene playing bottom pairing minutes before I make a conclusion that he’s worse than the twilight era Salvador.

 

[New Jersey]

We are a legit team. We don’t need to be making costly trades at the deadline.

i still think we're thin at d but i'm not based shero, i have faith this team is led well now. i don't mind being wrong with my pessimistic outlook.

 

[Its a Trap]

It isn’t even the point of the article. They are talking about how Severson shouldn’t be benched.

The point of the article is also that Greene and vatanen should not be benched for their mistakes because they’re veterans and they already know better which is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The point of the article is also that Greene and vatanen should not be benched for their mistakes because they’re veterans and they already know better which is absolutely ridiculous.

Because it is true. If you want the best team on the ice every night we can’t be benching them.

 

[Its a Trap]

Because it is true. If you want the best team on the ice every night we can’t be benching them.

I certainly don’t see how that’s the case with Greene. Having him not in the lineup wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for a game.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I certainly don’t see how that’s the case with Greene. Having him not in the lineup wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for a game.

Yes it would. We don’t have anyone to take his minutes.

 

[MadDevil]

We don't have anybody else to play the left side right now anyway, so talking about benching Greene is kind of pointless. Maybe when Mueller comes back and if Greene is still struggling you think about it. It probably doesn't help that he's still playing with Santini either, given how much those two struggle to get pucks out at times.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The D would look plenty worse if Greene sat right now before Muller came back. Wouldn’t look good afterward either.

Team showed defensive issues in the games Santini missed too.

The benching are meant to be teaching moments for the young guys. Not punishments. Most nights you want your best 6 in, but sometimes it helps for a young guy to sit for a game or two. Severson has responded well when he got back in before. I expect him to have a very strong game Sunday.

Sitting Greene will accomplish nothing. You don’t go sitting your locker room leaders unless your season is about to go down the drain. You risk losing the locker room, with little benefit.

 

[Zippy316]

Greene is fine.

He isn't what he was, but he's still a good defender.

 

[Bleedred]

Greene is fine.

He isn't what he was, but he's still a good defender.

Not as a top pairing guy, he’s not at all.

I think he can still be good in a bottom pairing role, like Lovejoy has been, but that’s about it.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Greene is fine.

He isn't what he was, but he's still a good defender.

Not really, he's terrible.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Not really, he's terrible.

I'd say under average to bad, but not awful.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Greene LJ might be a serviceable 3rd pair.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Doesn’t matter who we have playing on the first pairing, it’s going to be an issue until we actually have first pairing caliber defensemen.

 

[Zippy316]

The overreactions are incredible.

Greene is fine. He's a decent second pairing guy who is still terrific on the PK. One bad turnover doesn't immediately make him scratch-material.

He's being used in a defensive role like he's the same defender he was four years ago and he's not. Just look at the difference in Lovejoy when his usage is actually reasonable and Lovejoy was never half the player Greene was.

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

Did we though? We thought we upgraded our defense with Vatanen and yet we are still giving up plenty of goals. Is the problem Kinkaid? Is it just all of our d-men? Until we figure out how to shut opponents out defensively, I don't think we'll go far in the playoffs (if we make it).

The fact that you have expectations of going far in the playoffs is probably why you're reacting this way.

 

[glenwo2]

If there's one person I won't ever bench, it's Greene. He's the anchor of the Defense, imo.

 

[RSeen]

Greene is playing tougher minutes than he can handle. He has clearly declined and is now being forced to play a role he can't handle at this point in his career. I would not call him terrible. If he had softer minutes I think he would perform better, but the problem is our LHD depth is weak.