Ovechkin and Radulov

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  1. Tap on the Ankle

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    I was just looking at the rankings for the 04 draft, and this caught my eye.

    Ovechkin and Radulov both played for Dynamo Moscow last year, and here are their point totals:

    GP - G -- A -- P
    53 - 13 - 10 - 23 <- Ovechkin
    42 - 15 - 16 - 31 <- Radulov

    Which means Ovechkin averaged 0.43ppg, while Radulov got 0.74ppg. Now, I know points aren't everything, but that's a pretty significant difference. Radulov is also a year younger than AO. So what's the scoop? What is it about Ovechkin that ranked him so much higher?
     
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    Radulov played in an entirely different league, for one thing.
     
  3. Tap on the Ankle

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    Ah, I see. On nhl.com, it says "DYNAMO, RUS LEAGUE" next to both of them. I guess it's just different tiers or something. Confusing :dunno:
     
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    yup, different leagues,

    Ovechkin played for Dynamo Moscow in the Russian league and Radulov Russian League 1, for tver.

    I think Ovechkin is better by a large margin, Radulov is more of a toss up prospect imo something similar to Kastitsyn last year(although Andrei is developing nicely, more consistent).
     
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    How is Kostitsyn developing nicely?
     
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    He lit up the Russian 1st league and the Belrussian league. Who cares if he did nothing in the RSL. :)
     
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    Good eye to catch that though ;)
     
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    Just to clear it up:
    Ovechkin plays for Dynamo Moscow in SuperLeague
    Radulov played for Tver in Upper League
    Kastytsyn played for CSKA-2 (farm teams league, basically juniors)
     
  10. CH Wizard

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    Well it's simple.Kost completly destroy the CSKA-2.He didn't produce in CSKA.I don't care he had not a lot of icetime and almost all of the players had difficulties to produce in CSKA.Next year , will be a great year to the developement of Kost.The Habs sign him and He'll play in the AHL.
     
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    yup, Kastitsyn seems to be coming along real good and should be a great addition to the habs
     
  12. degroat*

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    Have the Habs already signed him? If not, it's too late to bring him over.
     
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    Nevermind... just saw that he has been signed.

    It'll be interest to see if he or Zakharov has a better year in the AHL.
     
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    i personally am stoked to see what kind of numbers Radulov puts up playing in Quebec. Shishkanov's year there saw him among the scoring leaders, and Radulov has, according to Preds scouting, considerably more offensive ability than even Shish.
     
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    Maybe. But that hasn't happened yet. So to say that his development is "coming along nicely" is not accurate, IMO.

    Heck, this kid was still suffering from seizures up until a few weeks ago. Talk about NOT coming along nicely, this problem was SUPPOSED to have cleared up before the draft.
     
  16. CH Wizard

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    Bob Gainey said that he will help Kost by being more mature.He said that He will play in the minors to adapt to the N.A style.

    As for the Epiliptic problems.He had been thread with the right medicaments two weeks ago.In Belarus they were giving him medicaments just for relax SOME symptoms.The habs finally founf what was wrong with him.I am sure the problem won't affect him alot in the future.Montreal is one of the best city about neuroligical threatments.A lot of Quebecers has epelipctic problems that's why.BTW the doctor said that his epileptic problems will prolly not reappers.A lot of people are saying that he's the wildcard of the 2003 draft.He was supposed to be picked way before but some scout was afraid to pick him because of his epileptic problems
     
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    That's what they said a year ago.
     
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    :handclap: :lol:
     
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    A year ago , he was in Belarus.Now it's true , the doctor FINALLYfound the nature of the problem.The medicaments was for relax his symptoms not to disappear them.
     
  20. Tap on the Ankle

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    I think I know why they messed it up. I was just looking on hockeydb.com, and apparently Radulov played 1 game with Dynamo this past season (didn't get any points, though). The NHL site somehow thought he had spent the full season w/ Dynamo.
     
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    re. Kostitsyn

    cska -2 is the upper league as well. And to add to it the only reason
    he wasn,t scoring in his time with super league is because he was
    on the fourth line and only got 4 -6 minutes if ice time a game.
     
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    Kastytsyn stats by Russian's prospects:

    2003-04 CSKA Moscow Super League (Reg. Season) 11 0 1 1 2 -
    2003-04 CSKA-2 1st League (Juniors) 14 11 8 19 8 -
     
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    Well why didn't he play well enough to earn more ice time?
     
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    You are mistaken here. Upper League clubs are not farm teams of SuperLeague clubs. Here the list of UpperLeague teams http://hockey.ipc.ru/russia2005/vl.htm and you won't find there CSKA-2, Dynamo-2, Lokomotiv-2, Metallurg-2... Farm teams have their own tournament.
     
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    Ask Tihkonov.
     
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