The Crypto Guy
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Who is 2nd all time in points? Thats right not Gordie Howe. Get out with your Canada bias.
Yawn
Yeah im wrong cuz you said so. LOL.
Howe comfortably ahead. He's in that Hull/Jagr/Richard tier rounding out the top-5.
I just simply don't understand how some people rank Richard above Ovi... I understand Montreal, great history and all, but in my mind Ovi passed him awhile ago, forget about if we are talking about right now. And regarding B.Hull, I believe there was a poll few seasons ago before Ovi won a Stanley cup, Conn Smythe and another Richard and they were neck-neck. I think he passed him too with that Stanley Cup, if not at least after this season for sure (assuming he gets another Richard)
For me its:
Howe
Jagr
Hull
Ovechkin
Richard
Ovechkin can pass both Hull and Jagr if he can keep it up for a few more years.
Who is 2nd all time in points? Thats right not Gordie Howe. Get out with your Canada bias.
Same goes for Jagr and his KHL years. I dont have emotional attachment to the illustrious mr hockey and simply think Jagr was better neck and neck.What a horrible post.
Did you at least consider Gordie’s WHA years when you opined this?
Hes still behind Howe, Lafleur and Jagr, but hes in contention with Hull and Richard for top 4, not a bad spot.
The problem is that his peak is short, like two seasons short.
Hes the best goalscorer out of those though, maybe ever.
Same goes for Jagr and his KHL years. I dont have emotional attachment to the illustrious mr hockey and simply think Jagr was better neck and neck.
Why was it a horrible post? Jagr is 2nd all time in points and to even suggest the likes of Hull above him is absurd.
Its clearly Jagr who gets little to no love on HF even when the results speak for themselves.
Yeah, he peaked much higher. Id take the best player in the league for 7 seasons over the second best player or third best for a few years, granted he played against Howe, hes never won a scoring race and lost to guys like Bentley and Lach.His peak was three seasons long ('07-'10). Not too long but impressive in terms of quality (three straight Ted Lindsay Awards).
You think Lafleur is better than Richard?
Lafleur "destroyed" those guys?
His top-10 finishes are 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4
Dionne's are 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7
That's not really "destruction".
NahHey wow that must mean that Mark Messier is the 3rd best hockey player of all time
Hes still behind Howe, Lafleur and Jagr, but hes in contention with Hull and Richard for top 4, not a bad spot.
The problem is that his peak is short, like two seasons short.
Hes the best goalscorer out of those though, maybe ever.
Yeah, he peaked much higher. Id take the best player in the league for 7 seasons over the second best player or third best for a few years, granted he played against Howe, hes never won a scoring race and lost to guys like Bentley and Lach.
Lafleur destroyed Clarke, Perreault, Dionne, Trottier.
Lafleur has the fourh or fifth best peak of all-time, IMO, and i value what a player was at their best a lot more than a steady guy that is never the best but does it for a long time.
1. Gordie Howe
2. Jaromir Jagr
3. Ovechkin
Jagr has the longevity so Ovechkin needs to keep playing but he should pass him soon and I think his dominance is really getting close to Howe just in a different way of course with goals vs. points. I don't think Art Rosses are necessarily of greater worth than goal leads because that's mot about team support.