Out of Town Thread VIII

[Habs Halifax]

Bergevin type of trade. 31 years old for a 24 years old

Do you have an example of this kind of trade Bergevin made? A 31 year old for a 24 year old?

 

[MXD]

Very interesting career despite very uninteresting skillset. Congrats.

 

[le_sean]

He was a very serviceable player. That Craig Rivet trade was amazing.

 

[MaxDummy]

that's not exactly what I was referring too...

and hate to break it to you, but as GM of the Montreal Canadiens...he is a "Hab".

As much as you or anyone wishes he wasn't.

"Hating THE Habs"
"Hating A Habs"

 

[OldCraig71]

I think other fanbases have just noticed that we Habs fan do a fine job of hating on the Habs ourselves...so they've left us to our own vices.

Oh, so what you're saying is that other fanbases feel bad for us now because we are so critical of the steaming pile of compost we have witnessed for the last 7 years. Thanks fellow NHL fans, we love your support.

 

[Mrb1p]

Very interesting career despite very uninteresting skillset. Congrats.

Lets go red

 

[417]

Oh, so what you're saying is that other fanbases feel bad for us now because we are so critical of the steaming pile of compost we have witnessed for the last 7 years. Thanks fellow NHL fans, we love your support.

no - that's not what i'm saying.

but I was speaking tongue-in-cheek anyways.

 

[OldCraig71]

no - that's not what i'm saying.

but I was speaking tongue-in-cheek anyways.

Okay, I got it now. Forgive me I am slow, double migraine day. Fun times.

 

[Lshap]

Yep, Nill building quite the team there. Glad all his acquisitions and signings are amounting to all kinds of playoff success.....

Jim Nill is on very thin ice in Dallas. No way around the facts -- he failed to build a winner; even worse, he failed to build a team that even makes the playoffs. His style of leadership serves as a cautionary tale of how big trades can't compensate for terrible development & drafting. Nill is an excellent horse-trader, but he's a terrible horse-breeder. Outside of his big-name forward acquisitions his team is a mess.

 

[PaulD]

that's not exactly what I was referring too...

and hate to break it to you, but as GM of the Montreal Canadiens...he is a "Hab".

As much as you or anyone wishes he wasn't.

"hate to break it to you" lol Sanctimonious or what.

Bergevin is no Hab.

 

[417]

"hate to break it to you" lol Sanctimonious or what.

Bergevin is no Hab.

I mean...OK

denying it, doesn't change things.

But sure lol

 

[417]

Jim Nill is on very thin ice in Dallas. No way around the facts -- he failed to build a winner; even worse, he failed to build a team that even makes the playoffs. His style of leadership serves as a cautionary tale of how big trades can't compensate for terrible development & drafting. Nill is an excellent horse-trader, but he's a terrible horse-breeder. Outside of his big-name forward acquisitions his team is a mess.

Oddly enough Jim Nill is a guy i've often seen as an example of how a great GM operates.

 

[Lshap]

Oddly enough Jim Nill is a guy i've often seen as an example of how a great GM operates.

He's the Bizarro World version of Bergevin. He can find top centres, he can sign great forwards, two things our GM cannot do. But he can't build depth or properly manage a cap to save his life. Dallas is a top-heavy monument that looked impressive two years ago, but is thisclose to toppling over.

 

[PaulD]

Jim Nill is on very thin ice in Dallas. No way around the facts -- he failed to build a winner; even worse, he failed to build a team that even makes the playoffs. His style of leadership serves as a cautionary tale of how big trades can't compensate for terrible development & drafting. Nill is an excellent horse-trader, but he's a terrible horse-breeder. Outside of his big-name forward acquisitions his team is a mess.

Sounds like Habsville to me.

But I would take the Stars top three players over anyone on the MBs Canadiens.

 

[DAChampion]

Why have Dallas failed?

 

[Adriatic]

I give Nill credit for the Seguin trade and for locking down Klingberg to a great cap number. Other than that I don't really like his moves. He doesn't need to do much convincing when signing free agents with no income tax and beautiful weather in Texas so I don't really give him much credit there. His moves don't seem to make the team progress whatsoever, seems stuck in neutral.

 

[jaffy27]

Sounds like Habsville to me.

But I would take the Stars top three players over anyone on the MBs Canadiens.

And that’s where it ends.....how’s Dallas’s prospect pool?

 

[Lshap]

Why have Dallas failed?

According to their fans, Dallas' drafting and development under Nill have been awful. Worse than ours. Not only has their system failed to produce a solid core of top players, it hasn't even given them decent depth. They've blown enormous amounts of cap space on UFAs and big salaries on Seguin, Radulov, Spezza, and a few years ago, Sharp, Oduya, Hemsky -- solid signings at the time -- but they never built a foundation to support their stars.

 

[Toene]

According to their fans, Dallas' drafting and development under Nill have been awful. Worse than ours. Not only has their system failed to produce a solid core of top players, it hasn't even given them decent depth. They've blown enormous amounts of cap space on UFAs and big salaries on Seguin, Radulov, Spezza, and a few years ago, Sharp, Oduya, Hemsky -- solid signings at the time -- but they never built a foundation to support their stars.

Especiall in the first round. They are brutal there, where selections are the most valuable and have the highest probability to at least be an NHLer. Not even elite but good depth.

 

[Miller Time]

According to their fans, Dallas' drafting and development under Nill have been awful. Worse than ours. Not only has their system failed to produce a solid core of top players, it hasn't even given them decent depth. They've blown enormous amounts of cap space on UFAs and big salaries on Seguin, Radulov, Spezza, and a few years ago, Sharp, Oduya, Hemsky -- solid signings at the time -- but they never built a foundation to support their stars.

It's why a guy like Timmins is so damn valuable...

 

[L4br3cqu3]

And that’s where it ends.....how’s Dallas’s prospect pool?

1st guy - That flower is beautiful.

2nd guy - Oh yeah, what the color of the sky ?!

 

[sharks9]

Why have Dallas failed?

Dallas Stars Draft History at hockeydb.com

They're probably worst in the league at drafting and developing players.

 

[Frank Drebin]

And that’s where it ends.....how’s Dallas’s prospect pool?

Take a look at Dallas' first rounders over the past decade, with the exception of heisk. Barf

 

[Habaneros]

St Louis is in danger of making the playoffs

 

[Tyson]

Colorado leading the Leafs 3-2 and outshooting them 34-13 after two