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A lot of Caps fans seem to think Trotz being a lame duck was never about the Caps management wanting to move on if they floundered again, but that he may want to retire from coaching to spend more time with his family.
 

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A lot of Caps fans seem to think Trotz being a lame duck was never about the Caps management wanting to move on if they floundered again, but that he may want to retire from coaching to spend more time with his family.

Well it's his decision.

If he does, it would be one hell of a capper to his Coaching career after being mocked so many times by...well...US with the Second-Round Trotz(or whatever nickname we gave him).

But I think it depends on what the GM offers. If the money is right, I think he comes back for a couple of more years....
 

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Well it's his decision.

If he does, it would be one hell of a capper to his Coaching career after being mocked so many times by...well...US with the Second-Round Trotz(or whatever nickname we gave him).

But I think it depends on what the GM offers. If the money is right, I think he comes back for a couple of more years....
That was Cage Helmet and his immature nicknames. To be a goofy, immature, 35 year old again! Like the Kremlin Kone days for me! At some point you get too old and you lose that creativity, which what happened to me in the last several years.:laugh:

I think that name from him goes back to about 2014. Whenever they hired Trotz. The Caps were once again already being handed the cup by the pundits and I remember him saying something like ''Trotz ain't even been past the second round in (however many years, it was over 15) years of coaching in the NHL''. Of course they would go on to lose to the Rangers that year in the second tound after having a 3-1 series lead. They almost lost to the Islanders in 7 games in the first round that year.
 
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I think Trotz is probably close to HOF consideration for this cup win.

His longevity in Nashville, despite not much deep playoff success, is also probably worth a lot. Head coaches don't stay employed with one team for that long. It's not very common.
 
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Bylsma managed to take a roster that was stacked and make them look painfully average. I don't know how the hell he did it, but despite all their superstars, I was never afraid or feared the Penguins as a legitimate threat while he was there.

When I watch a Boudreau or Trotz coach team, I've more often than not seen a discipline, structured team who plays their asses off. Their losses always seemed more from ridiculous performances (Halak in 2010), being outmatched roster-wise (Nashville Trotz), or just a toss up series that didn't go their way.
I’ll give it to you on Trotz. I don’t think he’s a bad coach, I never did, I just didn’t think he was this amazing and legendary head coach, either. He’s been talked about as a consensus top 3-5 head coach in the NHL for the last decade or more. I’ve never once thought Boudreau was anything greater than a median level HC in the league. Will do good, but not great with good teams and would probably do poor with teams below average. We have yet to see him coach a real below league median club at this level. Trotz never really coached stacked teams until Wash. Nash had some strong hockey clubs after the last lockout but probably not championship caliber and never had anywhere near an Ovechkin caliber phenom.
 

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I am allergic to any 'no way they are winning after g1 loss' predictions. The score was 5-4 before empty netter, anything can happen in this series.

Caps found a way to lit up Fleury, other teams didnt to a large extent. Jets were completely worn out in the series, physically exhausted - its the stanley cup final, both of the teams might be on paper identical to their regular season rosters of 1st round rosters, however its a completely new race in the SC finals.

Caps can take it in 5. Caps have the skill and physicality to do it. Unlikely? Yes. But ruling Caps out after g1 loss is not very smart.

I just wanted to point out it wouldnt be unfathomable. Ovie going on a hot streak, Holtby standing on his head.. Caps have the ingredients to take 4 in a row. They wont, but they could, just like Vegas could. The match-up is quite even imo.

Anybody making "no way" statements has apparently not been paying attention this season.

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This is exactly what I’m talking about. There’s no evidence whatsoever thus far to suggest this matchup is “quite even”. If a Winnipeg or Nashville came into this series 12-3 and won game 1 no one would be hedging on them like people are doing with Vegas.

They “could” win, “it’s possible”, “if they can do x y and z”... you could fill in any team in those blanks.

I’ll be surprised if the Caps win two games. Trust me I want them to win this series now because Ovie deserves it but the likely reality is different.

Twas a great game yesterday, a lot of fun to watch.

Vegas is definitely winning the cup lol

Washington was already the underdog here...no way they are winning 4 of the next 6 against a Vegas team that is now 13-3 in the playoffs.

If you can find a way to score 4 on Fluery and still lose, you probably don't stand much of a chance.

I don't think the Caps can take it in 5, I really don't. They might be able to take it in 6 or 7, but I don't think they're winning 4 in a row. They also have more anchors than Vegas, see the GWG for reference.

I don't think Vegas is winning it in 5 either.

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I think it's generally a fun observation that people that follow hockey as much as the posters here do have such broad range of opinions how the SCF will turn out. I am so glad this is not European soccer where you already know the champion before the season starts. NHL is so unpredictable, which is why it's so interesting.
 
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Nashville got ganked by Detroit in 2008 and Osgood after they chased Hasek outta there. I think they might have beaten Detroit if Babcock hadn't sat Hasek. They really had a hard time getting past San Jose in both 2006 and 2007. 5 game eliminations two years in a row.

The 2007 Preds were I don't wanna say stacked, but they were very top heavy. D was great, had a top 7 goalie. Paul Kariya was the one superstar I'd say they had. He was gone after that season. Then they had JP ''I can't believe he scored 65+ points three straight years, then fell off 2 years later at 31 years old'' Dumont. Legwand definitely performed like a top line center that year. Jason Arnott was a borderline 1C still. Martin Erat was still a top line caliber player. They also had a young Scott Hartnell and Alexander Radulov. Both pretty good seasons, probably used as 2nd/3rd line guys. They were loaded on D with Timonen (he was really good back then), Marek Zidlicky and very young Shea Weber and Ryan Suter. They also had Steve Sullivan, who was unavailable for the playoffs due to injury. Dumont, Sullivan and Erat all could have been top line RW's that year. Radulov was easily a 2nd line RW. Legwand and Arnott both could have been a 1C that year. Kariya is a 1LW, Hartnell is a 2LW. That top 4 D is pretty damn good. They get Forsberg at the deadline. Vokoun was easily a top 10 goaltender at the time. Probably a top 7 goaltender.

Now the next year. No more Kariya, no more Hartnell, no more Timonen, no more Forsberg (was a rental anyway), no more Vokoun. Steve Sullivan missed the entire season due to injury. Chris Mason who had played well in net the year before imploded, Dan Ellis played great but started fewer games than Mason. That team still made the playoffs, but that roster doesn't look cup caliber in the least. The 06-07 team was probably a contender, but they blew the team up. If they had that 06-07 team again, they might have made noise if it got another chance.
 
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The board never forgets :D

I think it's generally a fun observation that people that follow hockey as much as the posters here do have such broad range of opinions how the SCF will turn out. I am so glad this is not European soccer where you already know the champion before the season starts. NHL is so unpredictable, which is why it's so interesting.
I would have lost a fortune if I bet money on this playoffs.

Glad I didn't. I think I'll get back to my winning ways next playoffs!:P
 

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The board never forgets :D

I think it's generally a fun observation that people that follow hockey as much as the posters here do have such broad range of opinions how the SCF will turn out. I am so glad this is not European soccer where you already know the champion before the season starts. NHL is so unpredictable, which is why it's so interesting.

My pessimistic takes on everything this year actually worked out really well. The Devils made the playoffs and Ovi got his Cup. Hard to argue the results :)
 

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Rather have ovi win the cup before kovy. It really was an insane run by vegas in their 1st season... If you're gonna win a cup on the road Vegas is prob the perfect place to celebrate after the win.

Let's hope we take a bigger step closer to a run next season
 

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he wasn't booed like he is in most cities after a cup win.

Yes, there was barely any booing. That's why it struck me as odd. You never hear Bettman loud & clear like that unless it's a proper 1v1 interview setting.

As for the boobs, I was watching and I completely missed it. I noticed Caps players pointing into the stands, but I just assumed they were acknowledging fans, not that they were "acknowledging" 1 fan. lol

Woman presses her naked boobs up against cold ice hockey glass as Capitals players celebrate their Stanley Cup win
 

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I think Trotz is probably close to HOF consideration for this cup win.

His longevity in Nashville, despite not much deep playoff success, is also probably worth a lot. Head coaches don't stay employed with one team for that long. It's not very common.

He was also part of getting a brand new franchise competitive within 6 years of its inaugural season, back when the expansion process was much different and didn't exactly set teams up to succeed in quick fashion, and then only missing the playoffs 3 times in a 10 year span after that.
 

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“You have the cup, right?”

“No, I thought you had it”.

“Oh crap , we lost the cup”
. ....... the day after

:sarcasm:


A shame it's probably all tourists in there, locals booing him out of the club would have made for a more entertaining video lol
 
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