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Nothing to say in response to my last post?
Clearly we have different thought processes on how contention windows are run. I think that's pretty obvious, so I think we can just agree to disagree.
Nothing to say in response to my last post?
I see nothing that suggest the Avs are going to be a fringe playoff team or worse in just 4 years. Ask this question on the mainboards and people will have a good laugh, HF Avs fans seem like an overly pessimistic group.
Some moves will need to be made for cap reasons but it doesn't mean the team will suck as a result. It's only becomes a real issue when you have bad contracts on the team, the have none, and make a bunch of short term moves. We just traded Barrie for good value because his next contract would become an issue for us.
I dunno, many are claiming that that the Avs won't be a contender once the MacKinnon contracts ends. That has to mean that the Avs won't be a particularly good team in 4 years. A bubble playoff team or something like that.Neither does anyone else.
I dunno, many are claiming that that the Avs won't be a contender once the MacKinnon contracts ends. That has to mean that the Avs won't be a particularly good team in 4 years. A bubble playoff team or something like that.
I dunno, many are claiming that that the Avs won't be a contender once the MacKinnon contracts ends. That has to mean that the Avs won't be a particularly good team in 4 years. A bubble playoff team or something like that.
I think after the Mack resigning it will be hard to be a top tier cup contender. Doesn't mean we won't still be a playoff team though?
I mean who has said we won't be a playoff team post re signing Mack?
If they are not one of the bubble teams, but instead a stronger team that is a playoff lock before the season even starts then they automatically become a team that can get it done in today's league imo.Mayhaps we think that there's something between being a top contending and being a "fringe playoff team or worse"?
If they are not one of the bubble teams, but instead a stronger team that is a playoff lock before the season even starts then they automatically become a team that can get it done in today's league imo.
True true, maybe I came off wrong there.So what about the Wild? They made the postseason for 6 straight seasons, without once being actual contenders...or is this were we disagree, do you think that they were contenders because they had been a playoff lock for the better part of a decade? If you agree that they were never contenders then were they a "fringe-playoff team or worse"? Or would you agree that there is a grey area in which we can find perennial playoff teams who weren't at any point contenders?
This 'if you're saying we won't be contenders, then you must be saying we'll suck' argument always rings hollow to me because things simply aren't that binary. There's more than just top contenders, bubble teams, and tank-masters.
True true, maybe I came off wrong there.
I just don't believe the Avs won't be one of the top teams in the West 4 years from now. The core is too good, the prospect pool really strong for a playoff team and Sakic has been on point the last few years with almost everything he has done. We don't even really have a bad contract on the team.
You are all wrong...The Avs' window will never close.
Haha maybe it would have been smart on my part to add this to my post.Bookmarked for defense against all future accusations of straw-manning
Clearly we have different thought processes on how contention windows are run. I think that's pretty obvious, so I think we can just agree to disagree.
The difference between us and Minny is top end talent and we actually have prospect depth.So what about the Green Filth? They made the postseason for 6 straight seasons, without once being actual contenders...or is this were we disagree, do you think that they were contenders because they had been a playoff lock for the better part of a decade? If you agree that they were never contenders then were they a "fringe-playoff team or worse"? Or would you agree that there is a grey area in which we can find perennial playoff teams who weren't at any point contenders?
This 'if you're saying we won't be contenders, then you must be saying we won't be any good' argument always rings hollow to me because things simply aren't that binary. There's more than just top contenders, bubble/fringe-playoff teams, and tank-masters.
The difference between us and Minny is top end talent and we actually have prospect depth.
I think he answered your point quite well. Minny wasn't a contender despite being a perennial playoff lock because they lacked the high end talent and depth that we have. If this team with MacKinnon et al were a perennial playoff lock the same as Minny was, we could be considered a contender every year due to our high-end talent alone.
How is addressing a completely separate question, not missing the point? Whether we have more highend talent or not has absolutely nothing to do with the point of the post that was quoted.
Okay, I see what you're saying. I'll let you guys continue.
You’re trying to say Minny is comparable to us because we aren’t taking that final step and toiled in mediocrity right?
Seriously do you have any examples when I’m not engaging in good faith? I honestly try to be fair and it seems like you’re the one trying to slander here...?TBH I'm fine if we don't lol, avsfan09 has a tendency to only respond to what he wants to read rather than what's actually written...and I'd rather waste my time with those of you that actually engage in good faith