Line Combos: Our best center is now White, Pageau or Smith

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  1. swiftwin

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    Boxscores of the 18-18 season, enjoy the search.
     
  3. swiftwin

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    lol

    What would this place do if I wasn't here calling people out on their lies and disinformation?
     
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    I think calling people out is ok sometimes anyone can misinterpret information.
     
  5. danielpalfredsson

    danielpalfredsson why you zaitsev to be mad its only a trade

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    Totally fair. I make mistakes too sometimes.

    There's a difference between that and doubling down after being shown facts to the contrary.
     
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    This is perfect for resigning White and Tkachuk.

    Without Stone carrying the load for them they can't demand much from lack of production.

    Dorion is thinking ahead. Great move
     
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    Moved to wing
     
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    Same with everyone on this team you really cant say it applies only to Tierney, he has been good this year.
     
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    Not Duchene.. He never played with Stone and this was the comparison being made.
     
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    The "UFA Line" was together for a big chunk of November and December.

    5on5, Stone played with Duchene for 197 mins, and with Duchene and Dzingel for 108 mins for a total of 305 mins

    On the other hand, Stone and Tierney have 191 mins together, which is less time than either Duchene or White have spent with Stone.

    OTT 1819 F Combos
     
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    So:

    -Tierney leads the team in assists
    -Plays the 2nd most PK minutes among forwards
    -Had the least time on ice with Stone compared to Duchene and White

    I think the answer is quite clear. It's Tierney.
     
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    I think White is a good young player and should be a fixture as a center on the 3rd or 2nd lines....But he isnt ready to handle front line duties
     
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    Fenix Rises 2026 Alfie forever!

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    It's a rebuild and we're in last. So who cares? Start thinking about the 2020 draft, and all the prospects and picks coming in right now. There will be hope again soon.
     
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    OP if it makes you feel better, we're a disaster at basically every position lol.
     
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    I also would say Tierney.

    Which is incredibly sad.

    I think the more interesting question to ask is...once we deal Stone and Dzingel, how long has it been since the NHL will have seen a team this bad? I think we could maybe take the 2014-15 Sabres, but at least they got Eichel out of that. Even that bad Colorado team a couple years ago had plenty of talent on it.
     
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    Well, I'll post this to help out. Note that all these players could be upgraded by better players offensively and/or defensively but it gives you a realistic picture of the organization chart. Dzingel and Stone are still there but they could probably be gone soon too, as well as several vets in the near future (Ryan, Smith, Pageau, Tierney, Boedker, etc). I didn't bother to list AHL vets or prospects with no NHL potential (Burgess, AHL, etc)

    Center :

    1st line Actual : NONE
    1st line Potential : Logan Brown

    2nd line Actual : Colin White, Chris Tierney
    2nd line Potential : Josh Norris, Filip Chlapik

    3rd line Actual : J-G Pageau
    3rd line Potential : NONE

    4th line Actual : NONE
    4th line Potential : Aaron Luchuk, Jean-Christophe Beaudin, Jakov Novak

    Left Wing :

    1st line Actual : Ryan Dzingel
    1st line Potential : Brady Tkachuk

    2nd line Actual : NONE
    2nd line Potential : Rudolfs Balcers, Alex Formenton, Angus Crookshank

    3rd line Actual : Mikkel Bødker, Zack Smith
    3rd line Potential : Johnny Gruden

    4th line Actual : Magnus Pääjärvi
    4th line Potential : Nick Paul, Morgan Klimchuk

    Right Wing :

    1st line Actual : Mark Stone
    1st line Potential : Drake Batherson, Vitali Abramov (boom/bust)

    2nd line Actual : Bobby Ryan
    2nd line Potential : NONE

    3rd line Actual : NONE
    3rd line Potential : Jonathan Davidsson

    4th line Actual :
    4th line Potential : Markus Nurmi, Parker Kelly

    Left Defense :

    1st pairing Actual : Thomas Chabot
    1st pairing Potential : NONE

    2nd pairing Actual : NONE
    2nd pairing Potential : Christian Wolanin, Jonny Tychonick

    3rd pairing Actual : Maxime Lajoie, Mark Borowiecki, Ben Harpur
    3rd pairing Potential : Andreas Englund

    Right Defense :

    1st pairing Actual : NONE
    1st pairing Potential : Jacob Bernard-Docker

    2nd pairing Actual : Cody Ceci
    2nd pairing Potential : Christian Jaros

    3rd pairing Actual : Dylan DeMelo
    3rd pairing Potential : NONE

    Goaltending :

    Starter Actual : Craig Anderson
    Starter Potential : Filip Gustavsson, Joel Daccord

    Back-up Actual : Anders Nilsson
    Back-up Potential : Marcus Högberg, Kevin Mandolese (for now), Jordan Hollett (for now)



    Major needs for me are (and would influence my drafting) :

    1) Center with high end potential (2020 draft), can't put all hopes Logan Brown.
    2) RD with potential, can't put all hopes JBD.
    3) Good 2-way forwards for the bottom-6

    Outside of that, I'd try to hit homeruns with my picks.
     
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  19. Gesus

    Gesus Melnyk & Dorion ruined everything

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    Well it sure as heck isn't Smith lol.
     
  20. L'Aveuglette

    L'Aveuglette This space 4 rent

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    Yeah, like, I'm not a fan of Tierney's myself but he's way ahead of Smith on the depth chart. And clearly White is our best center as of now.
     
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    Gesus Melnyk & Dorion ruined everything

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    Ya I had to chuckle when I saw Smith's name included in the thread title. I put all 3 ahead of him significantly.
     
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    Yep and the kid has barely played a full season....Dont see this as being a good idea
     
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    our selections say it all...the guys you mentioned are not even second line centers...maybe White one day...but not today...not on any reputable NHL team
     
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    Tbh if NYR deals Hayes and Kreider I could see them "challenging" us for last next year.
     
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    I prefer White but Tierney deserves to be in the conversation.
     

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