What conclusions would you draw from those numbers?
The 2017 draft will not be good for HEO area players 14 to 20, the U 18 draft 7 to 11. 2 maybe 3 would have been added to the regular draft and drafted if there was not a U 18 draft this year.
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What conclusions would you draw from those numbers?
The 2017 draft will not be good for HEO area players 14 to 20, the U 18 draft 7 to 11. 2 maybe 3 would have been added to the regular draft and drafted if there was not a U 18 draft this year.
Not a fan of the league. But even with the old format this year would be low for OHL drafted players. 2001 age group is really weak.
The top player and a couple solid players left but imo there is not one sure fire OHL talent left in the league as of right now. Things can change from year to year with how players advance but as of right now I do not see it. Last season there were a couple of high round picks and this year I would be surprised to see any crack the top half of the draft. IMO the best chance is the goalie from Kemptville.
7 HEO area players left to play else were.
2 USA prep school
1 UDA Minor Midget
4 GTHL
Only 1 is top end, should go first round 5th to 10th
It is not a good birth year but there are still some very good prospects. Of the players that should get drafted about 10 to 15, 3 to 7 of those could go in rounds 2 to 6.
You can not hide the truly elite player in any league but you can really hurt the mid range player and that is what our local U 18 league has done.
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Brockville
Rumor,
The Brockville U 18 coach has been let go and they hired a former NHL player from Cornwall.
True?
U 18 coaching changes Hawksbury twice. Brockville. Pembroke (thanks Barberpoles). Who is next at year end?Cumberland? Nepean? Pembroke? Kanata(focus on Jr A team)?
That's a big number, is it not?
Are we sure U 18 coaching is better?
Rumor,
The Brockville U 18 coach has been let go and they hired a former NHL player from Cornwall.
True?
U 18 coaching changes Hawksbury twice. Brockville. Pembroke (thanks Barberpoles). Who is next at year end?Cumberland? Nepean? Pembroke? Kanata(focus on Jr A team)?
That's a big number, is it not?
Are we sure U 18 coaching is better?
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And that doesn't include the 2000 birth year players who left the U18 league after one year to go to Prep Schools. So league is weakened even more.
Not sure but teams that need new coaches in my opinion at u18 are Nepean, Smiths Falls, Pembroke, Cornwall, Brockville and Hawkesbury. Kanata, Cumberland, Ottawa, CP, Kemptville and Gloucester seem to have coaches that are teaching systems and there seems to be a better relationship between u18AAA and CCHL team which was purpose of this league.
The lack of u18AAA affiliated games to CCHL this year means league is not working out as well as I thought. I haven't counted but definitely less then last year.
Brockville will be lucky if I am thinking who the guy is from Cornwall, great role model for boys.
You should not bring up players that cannot help/play and there are very few in U 18 players that can step in and help/play. The league in your opinion was designed to help younger players. I have been telling you and others for 2 years its about control and money.
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The number of affiliated games to CCHL and how many graduate to CCHL following year is what I am gauging this league on for success or failure because it is same guys running both leagues. Affiliated games are down this year so league is going the wrong way.
Players drafted to OHL is not a good gauge because there are always lots of Ottawa kids that could replace many lower drafted kids. If you watch minor bantam or major bantam and you should already know now who has a good shot at top 3 rounds. Will Bitten and Greg Mereiles were always two steps ahead right from novice on.
The number of affiliated games to CCHL and how many graduate to CCHL following year is what I am gauging this league on for success or failure because it is same guys running both leagues. Affiliated games are down this year so league is going the wrong way.
Players drafted to OHL is not a good gauge because there are always lots of Ottawa kids that could replace many lower drafted kids. If you watch minor bantam or major bantam and you should already know now who has a good shot at top 3 rounds. Will Bitten and Greg Mereiles were always two steps ahead right from novice on.
It is hard on Ottawa area OHL scouts to draft mid to late round picks because the CCHL has control over a player in this area. They control Midget hockey, Jr.B hockey and Jr A tier II. You select players expecting them to show up to camp and try out. When taking an HEO area player there is extra that goes into the selection.
Does he want to come and try-out?
Which team in the CCHL has his playing rights? Will his controlling CCHL team allow him to go to an OHL camp?
Do we have a good working relation ship with that organization?
Some teams tell there OHL drafted players not to go to OHL camp. Why? There might not be a spot on the CCHL team when you get back.
Some times it is just easier to pick a player not from the HEO area. This league and the CCHL are not doing our local players any favors.
Nothappy or someone else, you guys like numbers then I invite you to breakdown affiliated games in CCHL from u18AAA players this year compared to last year and see it might be close to half.
The link between teams was supposed to be one of the selling features of this league.
Terry Nichols or Mr. Clarke can either one of you explain why numbers dropped so much?
I also heard that u18AAA might allow imports next year meaning players from USA or out of province. Any truth to this?
The link between teams was supposed to be one of the selling features of this league.
Terry Nichols or Mr. Clarke can either one of you explain why numbers dropped so much?
I also heard that u18AAA might allow imports next year meaning players from USA or out of province. Any truth to this?
In our case we have not had same need for APs as last year. Our APs have been Jr B players that played Midget AAA last year, so they came thru the Midget program. The only midget player that dressed for Jr A team is 2001 goalie. However our Midget AAA players have been APs at Jr B and played a lot. I believe you will find a lot of APing at Jr B which is also a good thing, I know Jr B has always had a hard time getting APs, much easier now. In fact there have been days where Jr B players played with our Jr A team and Midget players took their spots at Jr B.
Regarding out of area players I have not been informed of that occurring next season. However there is a demand for it, last summer I received calls from 5 AAA players from other parts of Ontario wanting to play in league, two were OHL drafted wanting to know how to play for our Midget team. I told them they had to move here. I doubt it happens.
Terry Nichols
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Very rough estimate from Pointstreak shows approx. 253 midget affiliate games last year versus 155 this year.
- 4 teams increased games (Cumberland, Gloucester, Hawkesbury, Pembroke)
- 2 teams with 45+ game decreases (CP and Kanata)
- 4 teams increased games (Cumberland, Gloucester, Hawkesbury, Pembroke)
- 2 teams with 45+ game decreases (CP and Kanata)
What Brockville did to their coach with a game left in the season is gutless, plain and simple no class.
That team could be done tomorrow and they make a coaching change to the guy that's been there for 2 seasons. It wasn't his fault that SN made the jump to the OHL or that the Braves used their top 2 bantam picks on kids who went to prep school, team over achieved for their roster IMO.
I get it JW played in the show, but I'm sure that the job would have been there once the season is over if he wanted it.
That team could be done tomorrow and they make a coaching change to the guy that's been there for 2 seasons. It wasn't his fault that SN made the jump to the OHL or that the Braves used their top 2 bantam picks on kids who went to prep school, team over achieved for their roster IMO.
I get it JW played in the show, but I'm sure that the job would have been there once the season is over if he wanted it.
Word in the rink is the U 18 coach would not let his players AP with the Jr B team. Why only he knows.
When you run/own Jr A, Jr B and the U 18 francizes you get to do as you please.
Great believer in what people do not what they say and the Brockville owner just showed his true colors. If he could do that to a coach what will he do to a player that crosses him?
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check the Tikis roster for the year... the U18 kids played jr B enough this year.
The only reason the coach was canned was because they had an NHL guy show interest and the owner bought into the hype.
If you sign up to coach in minor hockey the general assumption is that the association will have your back as long as you make reasonable decisions. Junior different story its a business.
So I guess the ultimate question raises again is the U18 about #development or is it a business?
#development #leagueofchoice
The only reason the coach was canned was because they had an NHL guy show interest and the owner bought into the hype.
If you sign up to coach in minor hockey the general assumption is that the association will have your back as long as you make reasonable decisions. Junior different story its a business.
So I guess the ultimate question raises again is the U18 about #development or is it a business?
#development #leagueofchoice
Over 20 APM games on Tikis roster from Brockville u18AAA so that is not true. The GM of CCHL club should be in charge of where players affiliate for best development.
I think players should be affiliated to teams where they will get a chance to play.
