Ottawa Senators send down Drake Batherson and Filip Chlapik to Belleville

[Micklebot]

Hopefully Abramov comes up. He should have been here from the start ahead of Batherson.

If they were going to have Chlapik play 6 mins on the bottom line, we probably would have been better off giving Paul that one last chance, not that he really stood out in training camp

 

[Nosswor]

The only consistent thing we've seen from DJ Smith has been White at centre with Tkachuk on his wing. I think it will stay that way with White as our 1C, I don't see him being moved to the wing.

Indeed, and that's pretty much our only line pair who are having any CF% success.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I dislike Melnyk to a borderline unhealthy degree, and even I’d be shocked if this was a money thing. Saving 5 days of NHL minimum salary would not be worth the additional damage done to the team’s relationship with its players. I’m guessing Brown and Balcers are in for Friday’s game.

Its very obvious its for saving on those minimum salaries. Belleville plays on Friday and Ottawa plays on Thursday. There's no possible reason to send them down but to save money. Ottawa only has 11 forwards now. They have to call someone up by Thursday. They may shuffle the deck but what's likely to happen is Batherson gets promoted on Thursday without playing a single minute for Belleville.

We're shitting on our relationships with these players just to save and we're not incentivizing guys to perform well for the club. This "rebuild" is utter madness.

 

[Micklebot]

Its very obvious its for saving on those minimum salaries. Belleville plays on Friday and Ottawa plays on Thursday. There's no possible reason to send them down but to save money. Ottawa only has 11 forwards now. They have to call someone up by Thursday. They may shuffle the deck but what's likely to happen is Batherson gets promoted on Thursday without playing a single minute for Belleville.

We're ****ting on our relationships with these players just to save and we're not incentivizing guys to perform well for the club. This "rebuild" is utter madness.

Sending them down early allows them to get some practices in with Belleville before the game. They should call someone up before the big clubs next practice for the same reason, but regardless of whether they do or don't, there is a rational reason to send the kids down when they did.

If the determination has already been made that Chlapik and Batherson aren't playing next game for Ottawa, there is no rational reason why they should be kept up.

That's not to say the team isn't cheap and happy to save a few bucks...

 

[Qward]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much of the salary Belleville is responsible for?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Development is #1

If you are going to have prospects in the NHL . You have to be patient and you have to put them in a position to succeed. Putting anyone in a position to succeed on this team is going to be a challenge but none the less you have to try. Neither was done with Chlapik and Batherson although Batherson did get some more rope.

Chlapik getting 5 something in ice in g1 and then sitting in the press box and then getting sent down. I expect to hear from his agent shortly. Whoever said he was a no show should go stand in the hall cuz they are not paying attention anyway.

This team can't roll a ball downhill. With or without Melnyk we need a GM that has a glint of a clue what he is doing.

Hiring an established NHL coach that is not on a make or break career path with this developing team would have been the way to go. They need someone to set Dorion straight and they need someone that isn't worried about his career being judged by W/L

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I just have to say this is really a bad take. There's no gratuitous outrage around a team like the Senators, not in 2019. You're just using a popular notion to erase the 100% warranted pessimism the organization has and continues to garner.

Sending down 2 of the few kids that ARE on the team is not a good look when literally all you have left to hold onto as a fan is the youth movement(it's literally our slogan this season). Sure they do both probably need more time in the minors but this shows just how bare the cupboards are that we basically only have two or three young players we developed on the roster currently that are good enough to stay there. That's bad and there's no glossing over it. And before you say our AHL team is stacked with talent, the jury is still out on that. There's potential, there's promise, but who is a sure-fire star in the making? None that I see. Brannstrom is good but we had to lose an elite winger to get him so he needs to become a top-pairing guy to justify the trade.

So yeah, we should always question every move management makes because they haven't proven a thing so far.

Outrage culture my butt.

I love how certain people feel targeted

I have a few specific posters in mind but mods won't allow us to call out specific posters.

I was not thinking of you and yet here you are, assuming I was. That is what I call self-reflection and the lashing out means that you feel it wasn't entirely off-base either.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Welcome to your 5 minutes and 30 seconds of glory

 

[Qward]

I am glad Vitaly is getting a shot.

 

[Micklebot]

Hiring an established NHL coach that is not on a make or break career path with this developing team would have been the way to go. They need someone to set Dorion straight and they need someone that isn't worried about his career being judged by W/L

This is a very good point, DJ Smith is in a tough spot. If he wants to further his career, he needs to show he belongs but is missing the pieces required to do so, and the orgs goals are inconsistent with his personal best interests. To top it off, the messaging the team has been putting out into the public domain is also a bit of a mixed bag; some days it's heavy on development, others it's about being competitive now, and feels more results oriented.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Is Batherson probably going to stay down?

 

[bert]

Is Batherson probably going to stay down?

No one knows not even management. They have no idea what they are doing.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Does this mean he didn't work and didn't skate during the preseason, which is why he was sent down?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Does this mean he didn't work and didn't skate during the preseason, which is why he was sent down?

Maybe why the others sent down

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I'm not going to get my pitchforks out, but holy crap does this team confuse me with their personnel decisions. 1 and 2 games before a send down is dumb imo. Either give them a stint or don't.

 

[senswon]

We need some goals
Abramov had a hot hand during preseason, hopefully they give him some minutes to work with

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Excited to see what Abramov can do. All pre-season (when he was healthy) he was getting the puck to the opposition's net. Love his non-stop way of playing. Hopefully it translates to NHL regular season game sooner rather than later.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Is Batherson probably going to stay down?

I hope so, he seems hopelessly lost. He doesn't have much to prove at the AHL level but he's very likely to get his confidence utterly shattered playing in Ottawa with how awful the team is right now.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Does this mean he didn't work and didn't skate during the preseason, which is why he was sent down?

He was asked a dumb question so he gave a straight forward answer: he's getting called up because he likes how he plays and we sent down wingers.

 

[Tuna99]

Protecting Batherson right now is important. The media and fans were both saying they were ‘underwhelmed’ by his play, next it’s ‘he sucks’

He doesn’t need to bear the brunt of a franchise that can’t put 2 solid weeks together. Send him down until the storm clouds clear

 

[The Lewler]

“You there ! Everyone around you sucks but why do you specifically suck ?”

 

[Sensinitis]

Does this mean he didn't work and didn't skate during the preseason, which is why he was sent down?

no I think it implies that Chlapik and Batherson don’t do those things

 

[God Says No]

Excited to see what Abramov can do. All pre-season (when he was healthy) he was getting the puck to the opposition's net. Love his non-stop way of playing. Hopefully it translates to NHL regular season game sooner rather than later.

I just hope he's put on with some skilled guys not on the fourth line with Sabu.

 

[Sensinitis]

It’s honestly a good thing we have plugs like Ryan, Ennis, Anisimov, Hainsey, Boro, etc. in the lineup.

Avoids us from having to put young players in spots they shouldn’t be in, prevents those same players from developing a loser mentality, and really helps with the tank.

Tkachuk-White-Brown
Duclair-Tierney-Abramov (plsss)
Ennis-Anisimov-Ryan
Boedker-Pageau-Sabourin

 

[Ice-Tray]

Abramov will be far more noticeable than Bath and Chlappy, no matter what line he’s on.