Line Combos: Ottawa Senators Defence

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  1. Micklebot

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    Karlsson can carry a pair, so why not split him up from Methot. Gryba Methot made a great shutdown pair in the lockout shortened season, that leaves one of Cowen, Wier or Phillips to play with Ceci and one to play with Karlsson (not Phillips).

    Boro can sub in for injuries, or bad play.
     
  2. Vesa Awesaka

    Vesa Awesaka #KeepTheSenate

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    Methot-Karlsson had some success in the nhl
    Wier-Gryba Great AHL chemistry
    Boro-Ceci Played together in the ahl

    Cowen

    Phillips

    Voted to trade Cowen but only if the right deal is out there. I imagine he has some value, probably more then wier and we can escape the contract hes under if he only turns out to be a 800k dmen
     
  3. Day Man

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    This is not a win now, but to develop chemistry for when our window opens, we will get a top draft pick this year as a bonus for it.

    Cowen - Karlsson
    Wiercioch - Ceci
    Claesson - Gryba
    Boro



    Phillips

    in the future I see it as

    Cowen - Karlsson , #1 Paring
    Wikstrand - Wiercioch , The Wik-Wier Line.
    Cleasson - Englund , Shut Down pairing
     
  4. Beville

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    Keep Gryba.
     
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    I did say yet, just not at the start of the season. I'd want hopefully a boost of confidence before I'd start switching players around and seeing if they could play the better lines and take a larger chunk of time. I'd like to see how Cowen takes to this upcoming season, and that goes with every other defenceman.
     
  6. L'Aveuglette

    L'Aveuglette This space 4 rent

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    Did Methot spontaneously combust in your reality or something?

    And these present and future pairings are terrible. Sorry. We don't know if Cowen will ever be top-2 material. Same goes for Wier and Wik as top-4 guys. Ceci is already ahead of them imo and I don't see why we'd trade him unless he regresses immensely.

    We're going to eventually need outside help anyway. One of those top-4 spots is in desperate need of good ol' talented veteran presence.
     
  7. God Says No

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    Of course keep Gryba. He was arguably our best defender the second half of the season. I'd love to start like this, even though there is zero chance that will happen:

    Methot - Karlsson
    Cowen - Gryba
    Wier - Ceci

    Phillips/Boro extra.
     
  8. Benjamin

    Benjamin Differently Financed

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    Swap Cowen and Wiercioch.
     
  9. God Says No

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    Nah. Cowen and Gryba played well as a de facto shutdown pair. Also I like the way Wier and Ceci played the last 5 games or so of the season when they were together.
     
  10. Sensinitis

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    So much depends on Cowen.
     
  11. MtRundle

    MtRundle We once were warriors.

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    This is a tire fire of a pairing. Does anyone else here think Gryba was even our 4th best D last year?

    Two D with little mobility and and even less decision making... I vote no
     
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    When in doubt, use more Phillips, especially on the PP.
     
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    Some people must think that Murray signed Phillips and Boro this year without taking into consideration how many defensemen are on one way contracts.

    You NEED depth on the back end, somebody is always getting hurt. Competition is good. Having options is good. If all of them are healthy and you've got quality players sitting in the press box every game, well then you might have to make a tough decision.

    A tougher position to be in is when you have to make a choice between Wideman or Grant in the top 4. I'd rather have the option of sending Ceci down or sit Gryba or whoever.

    Keep 8 and see how things play out.
     
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    In the future I can see

    Methot - Karlsson , Ottawan-Swede pairing
    Englund - Ceci , Ottawan-Swede pairing
    Wikstrand - Boro , Ottawan-Swede pairing

    :sarcasm:
     
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    Did you even watch last year? Gryba was probably the most consistent D for 2/3rds of the season. He had a rough start, but was solid for the most part. I'd argue he was our best D. On top of that, Cowen and Gryba were paired up for a good chunk last year and they did well. Not great, but you'd hard to find any pairing that did great.
     
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    1) Should have traded Phillips at the deadline
    2) Keep 8 Defensemen
    3) Trade Methot
     
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    I see Cody Ceci in our future, though.
     
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    Karlsson and Cowen are not going to make a good pairing IMO. Cowen isn't suited to play at the high tempo Karlsson does, so he just gets left behind. You pretty much have to use all 5 skaters in every zone now, so it's just not going to work.

    I think Methot is the best bet to play well with Karlsson. He's average at just about everything and has no major deficiencies, so he won't really raise the play of his partner but he won't slow down a better one either.

    Wier and Ceci both play at a similar pace and both can move the puck well, so they complement each other nicely. Pair them up so they can pass the puck to each other to deal with heavy forechecks. They also played well together for the last 5-10 games of last season.

    The last pairing is going to be the one that loses them a bunch of games. Gryba is the best out of the 4, so put him on the right side, rotate the other 3 through the left side and play the best performer for most of the games. Try really hard to keep them off the ice against anyone other than 4th lines and weak 3rd lines. Have them focus heavily on the PK.
     
  20. Sensinitis

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    Our D is kinda slow.
     
  21. Benjamin

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    More than kinda. Overall, its gotta be one of the slowests d-corps in the league. Karlsson and Ceci are fast but the rest are below average.
     
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    Guise, remember those times cowen would play down low in the offensive zone? He looked super awesome in those three or so moments. Convert him to forward, solve search for pfw.



    :sarcasm:
     
  23. Back In Black

    Back In Black 2D Just Do It!!!!

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    Keep 8, cause Murray came out and said there might be a defence man traded this year!
     
  24. PoutineSp00nZ

    PoutineSp00nZ Electricity is really just organized lightning.

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  25. Super Cake

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    There is another way to get rid of a defensemen.

    Methot-Ceci
    Cowen-Weircioch
    Gryba-Phillips
    Boro

    All you have to do is convert Karlsson to a forward. :P:sarcasm:
     

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