WTF is the problem? He IS just another player.. on another team.. in our division no less. Should the Sens just lay down and let them win because of the almighty #11? **** that.
Pre-Game Talk: Ottawa Senators @ Chicken Wings October 23 (7:30 p.m. Eastern, 4:30 p.m. Pacific)
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Actually, Kassian is 12 times better than MacArthur, and should be playing on the 2nd line with Turris
MacArthur is 0 for 24 shots, while Kassian is only 0 for 2 shots.
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http://www.ottawasun.com/2013/10/21...having-pre-game-dinner-with-daniel-alfredsson
Karlsson said people should respect Alfredsson’s decision, and he didn’t like the mud-slinging that went on.
“There’s not a lot of guys who have (played 17 years and went to a Stanley Cup final) for one organization,†said Karlsson. “Whatever decision he wanted to make, I think everybody should support him.
“That’s what I’ve been doing. Even though it sucks, and I want him to play here. At the same time, I’m very happy for him, and I know he likes it in Detroi
Karlsson said people should respect Alfredsson’s decision, and he didn’t like the mud-slinging that went on.
“There’s not a lot of guys who have (played 17 years and went to a Stanley Cup final) for one organization,†said Karlsson. “Whatever decision he wanted to make, I think everybody should support him.
“That’s what I’ve been doing. Even though it sucks, and I want him to play here. At the same time, I’m very happy for him, and I know he likes it in Detroi
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Actually, I really like the first meeting being in Detroit. It gives the guys a game to get over the nerves and avoid most of a media and fan craziness.
Now, when the second game occurs in Ottawa, the guys will be a little more focused and it wouldn't be as big, at least for them. It basically sets us up for a better opportunity to get the win at home in December.
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It'll never happen, but I'd love to see Spezza and Alf drop the gloves.
Well, both have been in a few NHL fights.....
Alfredsson didn't fair too well in that one (and holy hell does he look young).
Spezza did a little better. Wish he still had this level of fire.
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As Captain, should he not have borne some responsibility for the alleged atmosphere of the dressing room?
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1000x THIS. I am starting to get sick of all the "reasons" people keep insinuating about why he left Ottawa pinning it on the players that are still here. Are people not fans of OUR team?!? Why is it that this perceived laissez-faire attitude that was running rampant throughout our locker room NOT attributed to the captain. As captain, it's his job to corral the youth and develop that attitude of winning. Don't tell me that a 17 year veteran can't get some exuberant kids to settle down and focus on winning. If that's the case, he wasn't much of a captain anyways and we're better off without him trying to replace him with actual leadership.
I'm getting mighty sick of the deification of the false God that is Alfredsson.
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Alfredsson's 'leadership' was always overrated. He was a well respected player by his teammates, but he never seemed like much of a leader at any point.
This team will be better off moving forward.
This, and the notion that "Alfie owes me" anything, are stances that I'd like to see obliterated from these boards.
He's a person. A person who didn't shoot your dog.
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Agreed. Although it's hard not to get attached to players the reality is that hockey players have to do what they think is best for them. Loyalty is nice, but ultimately if he thinks that his career is coming to an end and he has a better chance at winning the cup somewhere else so be it. If he feels offended by his team and leaves because of that then so be it.
Skrymir
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Phillips out?
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Première rotation en défensive: Méthot-Karlsson, Cowen-Corvo, Wiercioch-Gryba. #Sens #ledroit
Sylvain St-Laurent @Syl_St_Laurent 14m
Première rotation en défensive: Méthot-Karlsson, Cowen-Corvo, Wiercioch-Gryba. #Sens #ledroit
I'm not surprised Wiercioch has lost his top-4 spot, he needs easier minutes to regain his confidence. Hopefully moving back to the left side will make him feel more comfortable too.
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OMG! If Phillips sits and Wiercioch is in I'll regurgitate. I like some of PW's offensive plays BUT is a defensive disaster waiting to happen. Whoever he is with gets dragged down. This kid just needs to grow some *** nards , toughen up and play a BALANCED game. You don't need to fight to play tough and PW, at this point, is softer than puppy poop. I think Phillips is having a good year considering his age. The only other thing I would like to see is Karlsson's shifts shortened so that he plays at top speed when he's on the ice. Two+ minute shifts encourages on ice rest. Yes he WAS a Norris Trophy winner but overplaying him AT THIS POINT is not getting him back to that level.
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I'm not judging one way or the other, I just think that this was his mindset.
You saw the frustration against Pittsburgh, the "probably not" comment regarding winning the series, grabbing the puck at the end, and talking about "making his decision" and not really referring specifically to retirement or staying with the Senators. It was oddly vague in retrospect.
He may have been a poor Captain in not being able to focus a young group of guys beyond the first round.
Or he may have been a tired and worn out Captain who didn't want to bother with it anymore and wanted to go somewhere where the winning mentality is so ingrained that it doesn't rely on him.
Feel free to pick either option.
However, I think the money thing is a smoke-screen/excuse for basically giving up on a team that he figured wasn't going to be ready to contend for a Cup while he was still able to play.
I don't know how many people have met Neil, but at his core, he's a Sens fan.
I think that his comments are vindictive of this. He likely still feels scorned, and the fact that Alfredsson only allegedly spoke to Spezza, Karlsson and Phillips before he made his decision, likely doesn't help.
Look at the home opener against Minnesota from 2 years back, when Neil drilled Heatley. He was trying to do exactly what any fan would do in his situation.
I don't expect anything less against Detroit.
I think that his comments are vindictive of this. He likely still feels scorned, and the fact that Alfredsson only allegedly spoke to Spezza, Karlsson and Phillips before he made his decision, likely doesn't help.
Look at the home opener against Minnesota from 2 years back, when Neil drilled Heatley. He was trying to do exactly what any fan would do in his situation.
I don't expect anything less against Detroit.
NyQuil
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Agreed.
I don't think anyone loves the Senators quite as much as Chris Neil.
It's personal to him if someone were to reject them.
Some day he'll end up as a crazy poster on this board.
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