Speculation: Ottawa offer sheet for Barzal

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  1. Adele Dazeem Registered User

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    Technically only one of those picks is a top-10 currently. Ottawa owns 3 & 5. If they were to offersheet they would lose the 5th (Ottawa's 1st) and draft with the 3rd OA.

    Ottawa adds Stutzle/Byfield + Barzal. Does that make them a playoff team? Not a surefire one, but they could start to compete for a WC spot.

    It's an intriguing idea and not one that definitely makes Ottawa a loser. But, that being said, Melnyk will probably take the safer route to "building" a team...
     
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    First off you can only offer a 7 yr offer sheet

    Second, compensation us ottas next 4 1st round picks. Remrmber you can offer sheet him only when UFA signing starts AFTER the draft.

    You could negotiate a trade in lieu of four first round picks. See if isles accept it. Likely not.
     
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    Ottawa aren't in a position to be losing anymore 1sts. Those could all easily be lottery picks.

    Oh and.... Melnyk isn't paying up.
     
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    Picks start in 2021 so not even this year. Barzal alone doesn't make them a playoff team and to potentially lose pick 1 in 2022 is horrifically stupid.
     
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    True. Also irrelevant since by the time Ottawa could offer sheet anyone, they won't have any more 1st rounders this year
     
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    Ottawa keeps 3 and 5 and gets to add Barzal? That would most likely make them a playoff team by the 2022 draft. Don't forget other teams will start to regress. I'm not saying this offersheet idea is the best thing to do, but to say that's its an outright stupid move is a little foolish in my opinion. 2021 draft looks weak, 2022 looks good but like I said Ottawa 'should' be much better by then.
     
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    Unless you are a lock team to make the playoffs it is horrifically stupid. Give an example example when Flyers offer sheeted Gratton they would have given up a lot of 1's.

    Thankfully ESPO was even a worse gm and asked for Renberg back instead. Who would the 1's have been? Flyers were able to draft Gagne and J Williams(stupid they traded him).

    Imagine with ping pong bounce you lose one of Shane Wright, Matthew Savoie and Brad Lambert. and 3 more 1's. 4 1's if you are pick 25ish ok that case you can make make. 4 1's when you were 2nd worst team in hockey there is no case to make.
     
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    Let’s forget Melnyk won’t pay that. 4 Sens 1st round picks for Barzal??? Maybe, like Maybe the final 2 picks will be slightly lower in the draft. But the next 2 picks will probably be pretty high. As much of a stud Barzal is we need those 4 picks more than an impact player now
     
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    Dorion calls up Barzals agent

    Asks if his client is willing to sign an offer sheet for 1 million x 7 years with unlimited soda in the players lounge

    Barzals agent hangs up the phone
     
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    Haha!
    Melnyk is going to spend money!!
    Ha!!
     
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    Perhaps they meant 10 million Canadian. That’s more in line with Melnyks budget.

    I can’t see Ottawa overpaying or even competitively paying a top star until there’s a shakeup management wise. I originally thought a new arena would do it, but with Covid even that is less of a sure thing.
     
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    Not a bloody chance.
     
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    So, you think Barzal,who publicly talks about how close a locker room the isles have and who is best friends with Beau, is leaving a team that just made the ECF, for a rebuilding Sens team?

    Go watch and read Barzal's comments about what a blast he and his teammates are having in the bubble.

    Also,the isles will view Barzal as their #1 off season priority. He will get the $8m they already have,while they will scramble to free up $ for Pulock,their second priority.
     
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    Even if we had an owner that would spend,its not something I could see us doing TBH....Ottawa has shown it can draft good /great players ...Why would we not just draft and sign our own guys,and not bother poaching
     
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    Barzal doesn’t get anywhere near 11 million from the Islanders. They’re going to try and get him to sign for the Point or Aho contracts. There’s a pretty good argument to be made that he should get less than that, too. And, I can’t imagine GMs are going to be as willing to hand out those contracts with the flat cap.
     
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    Yeah Barzal isnt leaving NY,they need to get him a better wing option than Eberle though.....Solid player,but no where near good enough for Barzal
     
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    Did Melnyk find money?
     
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    In his couch cushions??Lol
     
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    Considering Ottawa's own 1st is not even their best draft pick this year, it's NOT a bad idea...

    But Melnyk
     
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    Redundant post im sure but the last team id bet on to make an offer sheet is the Sens.

    Melnyk is by far, the cheapest, and probably one of the least wealthy owners in the league.

    Assets aside to give up as comp. , he will never shell out top dollar to pry away a player like that. He wont even open the vault for his own mvp players
     
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    his play this round has been dismal. offer away
     
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    Needs better wingers IMHO...Kid is big fast and skilled,but he needs support
     
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    On the one hand, if Ottawa were to sign Barzal, they would likely improve, so those picks may not be as valuable as they would be without him in the lineup...

    With that said, if they stay the course by building through the draft, it's possible and perhaps even probable that they'll land a player as good as Barzal (or close to it) over the course of the next 4 drafts...
     
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    I could see Buffalo, Calgary, and Winnipeg going all in for Barzal...
     
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    Cross off any team going thru a rebuild. Barzal's not gonna be interested in rebuilding or retooling.

    Barzal feels he'll sign with Islanders, hasn't had talks during pause
    "My first year, we weren't in the playoffs I think with 11 or 12 games left. It was really no fun. You just really didn't have a sense of competitiveness, whereas being in the playoff fight the last two years has been a blast for me and my teammates.
     

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