I'm curious to see whom our trading partners will be and I'm sure we will be losing two players but receiving 2 powerful forwards.
Sarnia
Josling for Tolnai and Constantini
Didn’t think he was an OA. The 3 you mentioned are better.He's an OA. You already have Keating/Garreffa/Hoefenmayer, who are all better than Josling
Ottawa has a rare opportunity to make up for last year and push chips in. Go for it.
Gogolev and Hillis for Matier, Tolnai and picks (2020 3rd, 2022 2nd and conditionals if they play as OA's). There's your top 6.
I can't see either Rippon or Okhotyuk being traded. They are clearly our #3 and #4 defencemen and 19 year olds to boot.
The talk of them regressing is very premature. Okhotyuk looked awesome in the couple games before he was hurt. Rippon may have been playing hurt all year. Every contending team in the league would want these guys so why would we, as a prime contending team trade them.
Right now, with everybody healthy I can see our D shaping out like this:
Bahl-Hoefenmayer
Rippon-Okhotyuk
Belanger-Matier
Costantini
Sawyer
Can't see us moving either Matier or Costantini unless a good veteran D is coming back as we are already lean on the blueline.
Gogolev is a nice player but his playoff stats are horrendous. I would only look at Gogolev as a last resort at a discount. He’s having a tremendous year so far and he looks really enticing but his playoff numbers scare the crap out of me.
Can't really look at playoff stats in 16/17 year old seasons as an indicator of playoff success in 19/20 year old seasons. Most guys don't play a huge role at 16/17 but then are the guy by the time they're 19.
Sasha Chmelevski had 2 goals in 6 games as a 16 year old, 1 goal in 5 games as a 17 year old. But then broke out for 31 points in 18 games last year. That's usually how it goes.
Tye Felhaber had 1 combined point in his first 2 postseasons and it was a secondary assist. But then had 17 goals in 18 games last year to lead the whole playoffs
Gogolev was a front line calibre player last season. Look at his stats...
What? He had 28 points in 37 games last year....
He broke his leg as soon as he got to Guelph and then was on the 3rd line and didn't play any powerplay when he came back right before the playoffs after they had loaded up
This was their lineup
Are you suggesting that Gogolev has same value as say Thomas? I don't think so.
Gogolev was not on 3rd - 4th line last playoff. Toropchenko was and he completely outclassed Gogolev.
I'm not saying Gogolev can't break out. What I am saying is if Ottawa is going to trade a '19 1st, they better get a proven performer, not a guy they "hope" will break out.
The only way I go at Gogolev is if he is available late for draft picks.
Lol what? Where in the world did that come from
No of course Gogolev doesn't have the same value as Thomas (wtf?) and I never said anything even close to that (there's a legit chance that not one person in the entire league who will be available at the deadline has the same value as Thomas lol). I said you can't judge players based on their 16/17 year old playoff totals when they're buried on the 3rd/4th line with no PP time (Toropchenko was on the #1 PP unit, so that's a bad comparison). Gogolev actually has very similar numbers to Felhaber, who by your standards was awful in his first couple playoffs but then lead the OHL in playoff goals last year, because that's usually how the junior hockey career arc goes.
Now Gogolev is on the #1 line and leading their #1 powerplay unit (and OTT's would be quite a bit more talented than Guelph's is), so to expect his playoff numbers to go back to when he was on the 3rd line getting sheltered minutes and no powerplay time doesn't seem logical to me.
Gogolev is a nice player but his playoff stats are horrendous. I would only look at Gogolev as a last resort at a discount. He’s having a tremendous year so far and he looks really enticing but his playoff numbers scare the crap out of me.
If Hayton is loaned to World Junior team there is a good chance he gets sent back to Soo following the tourney. He would be someone to consider trading Matier for.
Trades will be made as the 67s are in a position to contend and make a serious run. But I think some key role players will be added and not necessarily a star.
I don’t believe Matier gets moved. Too much upside and has already played big minutes on a short back end. He’s a big kid you can build around.
Tomasino will end up in Oshawa.
Thomas in Sudbury.
Meireles in Flint.
Damiani in Saginaw.
Kaliyev in London.
Jenik in Ottawa.
All guesses. So when I go 0-6 please take it easy.
Who goes to the Petes?If Hayton is loaned to World Junior team there is a good chance he gets sent back to Soo following the tourney. He would be someone to consider trading Matier for.
Trades will be made as the 67s are in a position to contend and make a serious run. But I think some key role players will be added and not necessarily a star.
I don’t believe Matier gets moved. Too much upside and has already played big minutes on a short back end. He’s a big kid you can build around.
Tomasino will end up in Oshawa.
Thomas in Sudbury.
Meireles in Flint.
Damiani in Saginaw.
Kaliyev in London.
Jenik in Ottawa.
All guesses. So when I go 0-6 please take it easy.
Who goes to the Petes?