Value of: ott trade with wild

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  1. Wildfan24

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    stone with a contract offer and signed whenever able to sign 7.5mx 7 years
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    Eriksson ekk 19 1st 2020 2nd folingo
     
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    San Jose outbids Minnesota with Melker Karlsson and a 4th.
     
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    Does Minnesota have the cap space for this?
     
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    Can Mark Stone play C next year when Staal leaves because we don't have the cap space to re-sign him, or in two years when Koivu retires because his contracts ends and he's 37?
     
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    Stone is getting more than 7.5. If that's the offer he'll go to FA.
     
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    jumptheshark Rebooting myself Sponsor

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    Nope
     
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    Stone would be a great add. Would need to add more salary going back (ie roster player(s)) and probably remove Eriksson Ek due to organization need.
     
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    Not very smart OP.
    No cap space and losing the only young C....you should follow the Wild more.
     
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    Minnesota waould have to move a $5M-ish player somewhere else to make it work. Would be worth looking into though.
     
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    Doesn't really help either team. I'd love to get stone, but we have granlund so don't need him. The sens need a top pair RD (spurgeon type player). The wild need young C ( colin white or logan brown type player), I don't see a deal here with the sens in a rebuild.
     
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    Stone is a VG player, but he's not what the Wild need, especially at that price. They need either elite scoring talent, or young players/prospects on ELC's. Paying Stone 7+ M simply isn't on....
     
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    First line right handed players are a need for Minnesota...
     
  13. drw02

    drw02 I beg to differ

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    Mark Stone might be one of the most overrated players on HF
     
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    On an extension, that's about fair value IMO.

    No need to add in Foligno there though.
     
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    No there isnt. It would be a nice luxury to have a rh 1st line player. But its not a need given Nino and Granlund are both comfortable and capable of playing RW.

    Young C capable players are a need. Like Erickson Ek.
     
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    I said it on the Wild board a few days ago, if the Wild are chasing one of Ottawas pending UFAs, its probably Duchene given Koivu and Staals age.
     
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    We should just trade Coyle and not have any right handed players in our top 9.

    Eriksson Ek is so promising at center that they have Greenway out playing center on his line.
     
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    Sure, if they have another wing capable of playing the right side at a high level. Doesnt change that we have granlund capable of 65 to 70 points playing RW and Nino capable of 50 to 60 when healthy.

    There is a difference between need and want.

    Them wanting to see if Greenway can be a 6'6" monster down the middle doesnt have any impact on what they think Ek can be long term.
     
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    Corrected you
     
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    Both those players are left handed playing the right side out of necessity. Top 6 right handed players are a need. Right handed players in general were a need. Want proof? Look at the signings Fenton made. 4/5 UFA signings were right handed,
     
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    Not for 7.5 or 8 m per year for 8 years, they ain't.

    The guy has a career high of 26 goals. Can be counted on to score in the low 20's. That's nice, but not 7.5M nice. MN fans would be screaming about him being overpaid within weeks of his arrival once they see what he is.

    Also, MN needs their ELC players, as players like Staal, Koivu, and Parise play out the string. Zucker, Dumba, Granlund, and Nino just got paid, and Coyle/Brodin will need to be re-upped in a while. We need the ELC players like Kunin, Greenway, Ek, and Tuch...oops... There isn't cap room for a 7.5-8M 20 goal scorer, especially one who is slow afoot.

    Hey, if Stone will sign for 6M, then we can talk. Point still remains that MN can't continue to trade picks, prospects , and ELC players. Wild have been rated as having the worst prospect pool in the league mainly because of deals like the one proposed above. That is not sustainable. If MN were a favorite, or near favorite to win the Cup this year, then...maybe...you sacrifice the future for the present. Does anyone really believe that Stone will make them Cup favorite's?
     
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    In a pre - season game. BFD.
     
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    Said no one, ever.
    Kunin should be ready soon, is RH'ed, and has a rep as a shooter/scorer.
    Stone signed as a FA would be near impossible if he wants 7.5m+. Trading young prospects for the dubious pleasure of paying him 60 M is insane.
     
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    there's a very large need of a RH forward on the PP. Acquiring Stone would necessitate moving one of Zucker or Nino anyway, so talking about them being in the lineup doesn't make sense. If you can move Niederreiter for anything close to the equivalent of Eriksson Ek and 1st round pick, then the OP trade becomes a no-brainer for the Wild.
     
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    Sarcasm detector malfunctioning?
    I know who Kunin is. I also know he’s still not cleared to play yet nor does anyone know if he will need to develop a lot more in Iowa.
    I already stated you’d need to take Eriksson Ek out and insert a roster player for cap reasons and balance the proposal from there. Stone would help this team tremendously. Turning a blind eye to a player of his caliber would be dumb.
     

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