Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by InDucheWeTrust, Feb 3, 2018.
1 for 1
Karlsson for Tavares
Elite for Elite
karlssons extra year makes this a no.
not that it would ever be a yes
Sorry Tavares is better? Lets say they both agree to extensions. I'd say yes because I want an elite C on my team. Then again, Karl will probably put the team on his back next year and get us into the playoffs. Don't think Tavares could do that for us...
Karlsson is the better player unless Tavares proves otherwise
How has Tavares not proven it? Anyways Karlsson will be more expensive to sign and is more likely to walk.
I say no. Does my answer sound reasonable to you?
He hasn't proven to be better than Karlsson.
How? Literally how has he not?
Because as a defenseman Karlsson can generate just as much offense as him?
and that's not even getting into Karlssons all around game edge
JT has a better all around game and elavates the play of his teammates like no one else as has been proven time and time again.
Hardware, postseason success, doing things nobody has done since Bobby Orr was in the league. Tavares is a great player having a good year and a top-5ish centre in the league. Karlsson is a better player having a (relatively) ****ty year on a very ****ty team after rehabbing a serious injury all offseason and a top-3 player in the league. Ask that question literally half a year ago and people would ridicule you immensely. One bad half-season doesn't come close to tarnishing Karlsson's body of work.
Karlsson hardware: 2
Tavares hardware: 0
Karlsson First All-Star: 4
Tavares First All-Star: 1
Karlsson playoff series wins: 3
Tavares playoff series wins: 1
Karlsson 37 points in 44 playoff games as a defenseman
Tavares 22 points in 24 playoff games as a forward
How is EK NOT better than John Tavares?
It seems very silly to judge a player by hardware and a teams playoff success, it's not JT's fault the islanders have failed him so much.
Nobody has put their entire team on their back more often than Erik Karlsson. This team is the worst in the league without him on the ice.
I answered your question. Please, tell us how Tavares is superior to Karlsson. Show your work.
My bad, 1. Still significantly less than 4.
Tavares Hart nominations: 2
Karlsson Hart nominations: 0
Not saying JT is better, but you can cherry picks things to support any argument.
There's been exactly one defenseman winner of the Hart Trophy in 40 years.
Postseason success, major individual trophies and First All-Star teams aren't cherry picking. That's how great players are judged.
I'm not saying JT is better I'm just saying they're in the same league and EK isn't superior. seriously Ottawa is the worst team? Lol Arizona and Buffalo are just too bad for that too happen.
And in the same time-frame not a single forward has won the Norris, yet you use that as a way to compare a forward to a defenseman.
I did not, I used individual trophies which Tavares has none. I didn't say Norris one time in any of my posts.
OK champ, what trophies does EK have?
Assuming equal contracts, I take Tavares all day every day, and twice on Sundays.
I was thinking I like the trade, and then you reminded me we have Erik ****ing Karlsson, and now I feel shame.
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