Confirmed Signing with Link: [OTT] Mark Stone signs 1 year contract (1yr $7.35M)

[Holymakinaw]

Fantasy top 250 rankings for 2018-19

It's just a fantasy ranking from the NHL, but players are ranked where they are for a reason. Look at where Stone is........easily behind 22-25 other RW's. (There were some that play multi positions that I didn't even bold...)

As I said.

Curious, eh?

1. Connor McDavid, C, EDM
2. Alex Ovechkin, LW, WSH
3. Nikita Kucherov, RW, TBL
4. Sidney Crosby, C, PIT
5. Evgeni Malkin, C, PIT
6. Patrik Laine, RW, WPG**
7. Auston Matthews, C, TOR**
8. John Tavares, C, TOR
9. Brad Marchand, LW, BOS
10. David Pastrnak, RW, BOS
11. Steven Stamkos, C, TBL
12. Nathan MacKinnon, C, COL
13. Tyler Seguin, C/RW, DAL*
14. Jamie Benn, C/LW, DAL
15. Andrei Vasilevskiy, G, TBL
16. Blake Wheeler, C/RW, WPG*
17. Claude Giroux, C/LW, PHI
18. Connor Hellebuyck, G, WPG
19. Patrick Kane, RW, CHI
20. Taylor Hall, LW, NJD (INJ.)
21. Dustin Byfuglien, D, WPG
22. Evgeny Kuznetsov, C, WSH
23. Anze Kopitar, C, LAK
24. Mark Scheifele, C, WPG
25. Vladimir Tarasenko, RW, STL (INJ.)
26. Brent Burns, D, SJS
27. Patrice Bergeron, C, BOS
28. Johnny Gaudreau, LW, CGY
29. Mitchell Marner, C/RW, TOR**
30. Jack Eichel, C, BUF
31. Artemi Panarin, C/LW, CBJ*
32. Phil Kessel, RW, PIT
33. Victor Hedman, D, TBL
34. Erik Karlsson, D, OTT*
35. Frederik Andersen, G, TOR
36. Drew Doughty, D, LAK
37. Braden Holtby, G, WSH
38. Sergei Bobrovsky, G, CBJ*
39. Aleksander Barkov, C, FLA
40. Filip Forsberg, LW, NSH
41. P.K. Subban, D, NSH
42. Jonathan Quick, G, LAK
43. Leon Draisaitl, C/RW, EDM
44. Joe Pavelski, C/RW, SJS*
45. Ryan Getzlaf, C, ANA
46. Jakub Voracek, RW, PHI
47. Tuukka Rask, G, BOS
48. Marc-Andre Fleury, G, VGK
49. Evander Kane, LW, SJS
50. John Klingberg, D, DAL
51. William Karlsson, C/LW, VGK
52. Ilya Kovalchuk, LW/RW, LAK
53. Roman Josi, D, NSH
54. Alexander Radulov, RW, DAL
55. Sean Monahan, C, CGY (INJ.)
56. Matt Murray, G, PIT
57. Pekka Rinne, G, NSH*
58. Seth Jones, D, CBJ
59. Mathew Barzal, C, NYI
60. Nicklas Backstrom, C, WSH
61. Martin Jones, G, SJS
62. John Gibson, G, ANA
63. John Carlson, D, WSH
64. Sebastian Aho, LW/RW, CAR**
65. Brock Boeser, RW, VAN (INJ.)**
66. Ben Bishop, G, DAL (INJ.)
67. Mikko Rantanen, LW/RW, COL**
68. Patric Hornqvist, RW, PIT
69. Matthew Tkachuk, LW, CGY (INJ.)**
70. Shayne Gostisbehere, D, PHI
71. Rasmus Dahlin, D, BUF
72. Keith Yandle, D, FLA
73. Sean Couturier, C, PHI (INJ.)
74. Jonathan Marchessault, C/LW, VGK
75. Rickard Rakell, C/LW/RW, ANA
76. William Nylander, C/RW, TOR (RFA)
77. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW/RW, WPG
78. Dougie Hamilton, D, CAR
79. Torey Krug, D, BOS
80. Kris Letang, D, PIT
81. Viktor Arvidsson, LW/RW, NSH
82. Logan Couture, C/LW, SJS
83. Brayden Schenn, C/LW, STL
84. Clayton Keller, C/LW/RW, ARI
85. Brayden Point, C/RW, TBL**
86. Jonathan Huberdeau, LW, FLA
87. Antti Raanta, G, ARI
88. Tyson Barrie, D, COL
89. Wayne Simmonds, RW, PHI (INJ.)*
90. Teuvo Teravainen, C/LW/RW, CAR**
91. Mark Giordano, D, CGY
92. Jeff Skinner, LW, BUF*
93. Mikael Granlund, C/RW, MIN
94. Max Pacioretty, LW, MTL (INJ.)*
95. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D, ARI
96. Devan Dubnyk, G, MIN
97. Ryan Johansen, C, NSH
98. Mike Hoffman, LW/RW, FLA
99. James van Riemsdyk, LW, PHI
100. Charlie McAvoy, D, BOS**
101. Cam Atkinson, RW, CBJ
102. Vincent Trocheck, C, FLA
103. Jake Allen, G, STL
104. Jeff Carter, C, LAK
105. Alex Pietrangelo, D, STL
106. Zach Werenski, D, CBJ**
107. Gabriel Landeskog, LW, COL
108. Morgan Rielly, D, TOR
109. Ivan Provorov, D, PHI (INJ.)**
110. Kyle Connor, LW, WPG**
111. Eric Staal, C, MIN*
112. Mike Smith, G, CGY*
113. Ryan Ellis, D, NSH*
114. Corey Crawford, G, CHI (INJ.)
115. Dylan Larkin, C/RW, DET (RFA)
116. Aaron Ekblad, D, FLA
117. T.J. Oshie, RW, WSH
118. Rasmus Ristolainen, D, BUF
119. Cam Talbot, G, EDM*
120. Jake Guentzel, C/LW, PIT**
121. Reilly Smith, LW/RW, VGK
122. Jaden Schwartz, LW, STL (INJ.)
123. Nazem Kadri, C, TOR
124. Roberto Luongo, G, FLA
125. Jonathan Toews, C, CHI (INJ.)
126. Mikhail Sergachev, D, TBL
127. Jake Gardiner, D, TOR*
128. Sam Reinhart, C/LW/RW, BUF (RFA)
129. Mark Stone, RW, OTT (INJ.)

 

[TheDoldrums]

 

[Kranix]

What does this contract mean? Is Stone waiting to see if they can keep Karlsson long-term?

 

[Sting]

Fantasy top 250 rankings for 2018-19

It's just a fantasy ranking from the NHL, but players are ranked where they are for a reason. Look at where Stone is........easily behind 22-25 other RW's. (There were some that play multi positions that I didn't even bold...)

As I said.

Curious, eh?

We're using NHL network's fantasy predictions to evaluate talent now? Yikes.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have enjoyed scooping up Stone late in my fantasy leagues the past 2-3 years. Criminally underrated because it's Ottawa.

 

[Korpse]

Fantasy top 250 rankings for 2018-19

It's just a fantasy ranking from the NHL, but players are ranked where they are for a reason. Look at where Stone is........easily behind 22-25 other RW's. (There were some that play multi positions that I didn't even bold...)

As I said.

Curious, eh?

Thats a historically bad list.

Without getting into the fallacy of using fantasy rankings (From NHL.com nonetheless) to define a player that list criminally underrates Stone. Since becoming a full time NHL player Stone ranks 30th in points among all skaters, the idea that he would be ranked 129th in any ranking is hard to grasp.

 

[Fandlauer]

What does this contract mean? Is Stone waiting to see if they can keep Karlsson long-term?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Does not sound like he wants to stay in Ottawa long term.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Thats a historically bad list.

Without getting into the fallacy of using fantasy rankings (From NHL.com nonetheless) to define a player that list criminally underrates Stone. Since becoming a full time NHL player Stone ranks 30th in points among all skaters, the idea that he would be ranked 129th in any ranking is hard to grasp.

Nah, it's a good list.

 

[Zybalto]

Nah, it's a good list.

Point per game leaders last year:

16: Crosby: 1.09
17: Stone: 1.07
18: Ovi: 1.06

Is it because he was injured? He and Matthews played pretty much the same number of games and Matthews is 7th on the list.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Nah, it's a good list.

Great rationale behind that post...

 

[The Winter Soldier]

If Stone makes it to UFA, If I were Winnipeg I would take a run at the hometown boy. He and Scheifele had instant chemistry at the Worlds. Absolutely one of the best world's tandems I can recall. Dominating on ice. This would mean losing Wheeler, but Stone is a very good player. And he would fit on the Jets like a glove.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Fantasy top 250 rankings for 2018-19

It's just a fantasy ranking from the NHL, but players are ranked where they are for a reason. Look at where Stone is........easily behind 22-25 other RW's. (There were some that play multi positions that I didn't even bold...)

As I said.

Curious, eh?

Wait a second, you're using a fantasy hockey list as your main argument for why Stone is being overrated?


Holy shit this might top the cake for terrible arguments on these boards. Wow.

 

[Habsddicted]

Great rationale behind that post...

I only read 3 pages and none of his posts are rational, what did you expect? Lol

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

Fantasy top 250 rankings for 2018-19

It's just a fantasy ranking from the NHL, but players are ranked where they are for a reason. Look at where Stone is........easily behind 22-25 other RW's. (There were some that play multi positions that I didn't even bold...)

As I said.

Curious, eh?

1. Connor McDavid, C, EDM
2. Alex Ovechkin, LW, WSH
3. Nikita Kucherov, RW, TBL
4. Sidney Crosby, C, PIT
5. Evgeni Malkin, C, PIT
6. Patrik Laine, RW, WPG**
7. Auston Matthews, C, TOR**
8. John Tavares, C, TOR
9. Brad Marchand, LW, BOS
10. David Pastrnak, RW, BOS
11. Steven Stamkos, C, TBL
12. Nathan MacKinnon, C, COL
13. Tyler Seguin, C/RW, DAL*
14. Jamie Benn, C/LW, DAL
15. Andrei Vasilevskiy, G, TBL
16. Blake Wheeler, C/RW, WPG*
17. Claude Giroux, C/LW, PHI
18. Connor Hellebuyck, G, WPG
19. Patrick Kane, RW, CHI
20. Taylor Hall, LW, NJD (INJ.)
21. Dustin Byfuglien, D, WPG
22. Evgeny Kuznetsov, C, WSH
23. Anze Kopitar, C, LAK
24. Mark Scheifele, C, WPG
25. Vladimir Tarasenko, RW, STL (INJ.)
26. Brent Burns, D, SJS
27. Patrice Bergeron, C, BOS
28. Johnny Gaudreau, LW, CGY
29. Mitchell Marner, C/RW, TOR**
30. Jack Eichel, C, BUF
31. Artemi Panarin, C/LW, CBJ*
32. Phil Kessel, RW, PIT
33. Victor Hedman, D, TBL
34. Erik Karlsson, D, OTT*
35. Frederik Andersen, G, TOR
36. Drew Doughty, D, LAK
37. Braden Holtby, G, WSH
38. Sergei Bobrovsky, G, CBJ*
39. Aleksander Barkov, C, FLA
40. Filip Forsberg, LW, NSH
41. P.K. Subban, D, NSH
42. Jonathan Quick, G, LAK
43. Leon Draisaitl, C/RW, EDM
44. Joe Pavelski, C/RW, SJS*
45. Ryan Getzlaf, C, ANA
46. Jakub Voracek, RW, PHI
47. Tuukka Rask, G, BOS
48. Marc-Andre Fleury, G, VGK
49. Evander Kane, LW, SJS
50. John Klingberg, D, DAL
51. William Karlsson, C/LW, VGK
52. Ilya Kovalchuk, LW/RW, LAK
53. Roman Josi, D, NSH
54. Alexander Radulov, RW, DAL
55. Sean Monahan, C, CGY (INJ.)
56. Matt Murray, G, PIT
57. Pekka Rinne, G, NSH*
58. Seth Jones, D, CBJ
59. Mathew Barzal, C, NYI
60. Nicklas Backstrom, C, WSH
61. Martin Jones, G, SJS
62. John Gibson, G, ANA
63. John Carlson, D, WSH
64. Sebastian Aho, LW/RW, CAR**
65. Brock Boeser, RW, VAN (INJ.)**
66. Ben Bishop, G, DAL (INJ.)
67. Mikko Rantanen, LW/RW, COL**
68. Patric Hornqvist, RW, PIT
69. Matthew Tkachuk, LW, CGY (INJ.)**
70. Shayne Gostisbehere, D, PHI
71. Rasmus Dahlin, D, BUF
72. Keith Yandle, D, FLA
73. Sean Couturier, C, PHI (INJ.)
74. Jonathan Marchessault, C/LW, VGK
75. Rickard Rakell, C/LW/RW, ANA
76. William Nylander, C/RW, TOR (RFA)
77. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW/RW, WPG
78. Dougie Hamilton, D, CAR
79. Torey Krug, D, BOS
80. Kris Letang, D, PIT
81. Viktor Arvidsson, LW/RW, NSH
82. Logan Couture, C/LW, SJS
83. Brayden Schenn, C/LW, STL
84. Clayton Keller, C/LW/RW, ARI
85. Brayden Point, C/RW, TBL**
86. Jonathan Huberdeau, LW, FLA
87. Antti Raanta, G, ARI
88. Tyson Barrie, D, COL
89. Wayne Simmonds, RW, PHI (INJ.)*
90. Teuvo Teravainen, C/LW/RW, CAR**
91. Mark Giordano, D, CGY
92. Jeff Skinner, LW, BUF*
93. Mikael Granlund, C/RW, MIN
94. Max Pacioretty, LW, MTL (INJ.)*
95. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D, ARI
96. Devan Dubnyk, G, MIN
97. Ryan Johansen, C, NSH
98. Mike Hoffman, LW/RW, FLA
99. James van Riemsdyk, LW, PHI
100. Charlie McAvoy, D, BOS**
101. Cam Atkinson, RW, CBJ
102. Vincent Trocheck, C, FLA
103. Jake Allen, G, STL
104. Jeff Carter, C, LAK
105. Alex Pietrangelo, D, STL
106. Zach Werenski, D, CBJ**
107. Gabriel Landeskog, LW, COL
108. Morgan Rielly, D, TOR
109. Ivan Provorov, D, PHI (INJ.)**
110. Kyle Connor, LW, WPG**
111. Eric Staal, C, MIN*
112. Mike Smith, G, CGY*
113. Ryan Ellis, D, NSH*
114. Corey Crawford, G, CHI (INJ.)
115. Dylan Larkin, C/RW, DET (RFA)
116. Aaron Ekblad, D, FLA
117. T.J. Oshie, RW, WSH
118. Rasmus Ristolainen, D, BUF
119. Cam Talbot, G, EDM*
120. Jake Guentzel, C/LW, PIT**
121. Reilly Smith, LW/RW, VGK
122. Jaden Schwartz, LW, STL (INJ.)
123. Nazem Kadri, C, TOR
124. Roberto Luongo, G, FLA
125. Jonathan Toews, C, CHI (INJ.)
126. Mikhail Sergachev, D, TBL
127. Jake Gardiner, D, TOR*
128. Sam Reinhart, C/LW/RW, BUF (RFA)
129. Mark Stone, RW, OTT (INJ.)

And that list has 0 credibility when Hornqvist, Simmonds, Atkinson and others are ahead of Stone. And why the hell are you posting an projected NHL Fantasy list as reference to a players value? Makes no sense at all...

 

[Holymakinaw]

Wait a second, you're using a fantasy hockey list as your main argument for why Stone is being overrated?


Holy **** this might top the cake for terrible arguments on these boards. Wow.

LOL. Where do you think "fantasy" rankings come from? Are they ranking the players based on their ability to cast spells? Or use invisibility cloaks? Or jump over tall buildings?

Or are they based on their PERFORMANCE from the previous years? Goals, assists, points, hits, blocked shots, faceoffs, PIMS, specialty team points.....

There is a REASON that McDavid, Ovechkin, Kucherov, Crosby, Malkin are the top 5 on the list. Because they are in real life, too!! A few of the rankings are slightly arguable, but overall........it's a good list.

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

LOL. Where do you think "fantasy" rankings come from? Are they ranking the players based on their ability to cast spells? Or use invisibility cloaks? Or jump over tall buildings?

Or are they based on their PERFORMANCE from the previous years? Goals, assists, points, hits, blocked shots, faceoffs, PIMS, specialty team points.....

There is a REASON that McDavid, Ovechkin, Kucherov, Crosby, Malkin are the top 5 on the list. Because they are in real life, too!! A few of the rankings are slightly arguable, but overall........it's a good list.

But again... its a Projected NHL Fantasy list used for PEOPLE MAKING FANTASY HOCKEY POOLS.... how many points are attributed to PIMS, hits etc... why are middle 6 forwards ahead of other noticeable players. I guess the projected prospect pool lists are always right too because its a list, right?

 

[Holymakinaw]

I guess the projected prospect pool lists are always right too because its a list, right?

No, but that doesn't mean that these lists are not GOOD lists!!

Stone is not worth anywhere near 7.3 million.

 

[HSF]

wait did someone actually use a fantasy hockey list as proof ?


next thing you know someone will use NHL 2k18 stats

 

[Mogo]

Gonna be nuts seeing Sens lose Karlsson, Stone and Duchence for nothing or picks and meh prospects and also that #1 overall next year. Yikes

 

[Tripod]

No, but that doesn't mean that these lists are not GOOD lists!!

Stone is not worth anywhere near 7.3 million.

In a world where JVR and Kane are now worth 7 million, what is Stone worth then?

 

[Holymakinaw]

In a world where JVR and Kane are now worth 7 million, what is Stone worth then?

He's worth LESS.

Besides also having 55-60+ point seasons, JVR has hit 27, 29, 30 and 36 goals. Stone doesn't score as much as JVR. And yet JVR makes less. IE: Stone is overpaid.

E. Kane is WAY overpaid for what he's delivered.

And so is Stone.

 

[Tripod]

He's worth LESS.

Besides also having 55-60+ point seasons, JVR has hit 27, 29, 30 and 36 goals. Stone doesn't score as much as JVR. And yet JVR makes less. IE: Stone is overpaid.

E. Kane is WAY overpaid for what he's delivered.

And so is Stone.

Stone just posted a PPG season. That matters.

And yes, JVR scores more, but Stones defence is WAY better.

As a Flyers fan, I would take Stone for 5 years at 7.3 million over JVR for 5 years at 7 million....if both were LW. Stone is a much better player.

 

[rent free]

An article on the score says he is still open to signing a long term deal with the sens and CNN and FOX NEWS are both extremely biased towards liberal and conservatives

 

[Tripod]

He's worth LESS.

Besides also having 55-60+ point seasons, JVR has hit 27, 29, 30 and 36 goals. Stone doesn't score as much as JVR. And yet JVR makes less. IE: Stone is overpaid.

E. Kane is WAY overpaid for what he's delivered.

And so is Stone.

But stone plays WAY BETTER DEFENSE.

Last 4 years:

Stone 241 points in 284 games....91 goals
JVR 201 points in 285 games...106 goals

I would take the better player, better point getter, and the guy coming off a PPG season over the guy who gets 4 more goals a season.

 

[Crow]

This has turned into the worst thread I believe I have ever read here.

JVR is better than stone?