Ottawa has the most satisfying page on capfriendly.
Anyone trying to pull the loyalty card are either just being dishonest or know nothing about the situation. Any team in the league in that position would make that same call. Preds will do it with Rinne most likely next season. It's a part of the business, its not anything unique to the Senators.
Euge did not like this. I wish they cleared all their remaining contracts just so I could see it on capfriendly.And the least satisfying page on "NHL Board of Governors."
Yep, sometimes you just need to turn the page and move on. Money, performance, age etc. all factor into it. Too bad some people don’t understand that.
If the Leafs decide to move on from Freddie, and we're able to get a good return, I wouldn't mind going with a tandem of Campbell and Anderson. That's decent depth and may not cost much either.
You just can't keep guys forever, even if you'd like too.Yep, sometimes you just need to turn the page and move on. Money, performance, age etc. all factor into it. Too bad some people don’t understand that.
Nothing like bad goaltending to go with a team that has an overall bad team defence system.
remember the last two years backup games? I believe we had like 3 wins total.
When we went from Hasek to Emery, the Senators had to learn team defence pretty damned quick, and did so.
Employing him for a decade, and having him on a 4.5 AAV contract until he's almost 40 isn't loyal? If anything he's a guy they've been most loyal to. But he's clearly been starting to decline for a couple years now, and this way, he won't be remembered as the goalie in his 40s that ended up losing his starting position and going out of the team on a bad note.An organization that demands loyalty but gives none in return. He's respected in Ottawa and it's not like they're going to compete anyway.
You can't just keep re-signing him just because... Eventually you have to move on when the goalie is no longer very good and it's his time.An organization that demands loyalty but gives none in return. He's respected in Ottawa and it's not like they're going to compete anyway.
What...? They called him the best goalie in their history? How is that bad treatment? Because a rebuilding team doesn't want to sign a 39 year old goalie who isn't very good and need to try out their next round of goalies?This guy gave everything he had to the Sens organization for nearly a decade and this is how they thank him? No wonder Ottawa is the laughing stock of the league.
In a weird way the Sens have more of competitive aura to them. That 2013 or so season with Greening as a star and literally everyone having a career year and the miracle ECF team doesn’t happen in Toronto. They have a culture where teams like those would of finished bottom 6 missing out on the lottery pick. Just how things go in Toronto
Leafs technically missed the playoffs this year. Anderson and Campbell tandem would assure we do before the qualifier round next year
I swear some people don't even think for a second before they start typing.
That was the Pesky Sens year when Karlsson, Anderson and Spezza were all out at the same time for massive amounts of the season and the team just rallied around their absence.
We sort of had your team in the late 90s and early 2000s, when we had all kinds of skill and optimism and lost to the Leafs over and over again with their gritty shot-blocking veterans, playoff experience and solid goaltending. By the time a lot of our guys had earned that playoff experience, they applied it to other teams (e.g. Hossa, Chara, Kelly) and won Stanley Cups in those cities.
We didn't have a lot of veterans because this was pre-cap and they were expensive. We had to accumulate the experience instead and it was frustrating. We felt that the team deserved better and we couldn't figure out why they couldn't progress.
I don't think there's a shortcut to learning how to win in the playoffs, aside from maybe importing it. In 2017, we made it further than anyone expected, but we did it on the backs of experienced guys like MacArthur, Ryan, Brassard, Phaneuf and Methot playing hard-working roles while Karlsson wowed the casuals.
I think the Leafs honestly believe that they can beat anyone in the league (and have) with their talent, and that's problematic when teams just refuse to let them do it in the post-season. I know it's unfair to blame Freddie Andersen for a series loss when scoring is tight, but sports aren't fair, and sometimes you just need your goalie to win a game. Lalime went 0 for 4 in Game 7 starts with the Senators and that's just not good enough regardless of how the team in front of him plays.
The Senators have a weird playoff history of a decade of contending status or so (2000s) and underachieving as favourites, followed by a decade of relative mediocrity (2010s) and winning a series here and there from time to time as underdogs.
I think Anderson played a big part of that - he was stellar in the post-season and made any series potentially winnable.
Guy is so underrated in the playoffs. Karlsson's godly performance in 2017 definitely overshadowed how good Andy really was. Would be a great backup option for a playoff contender. VAN would be a good fit if they don't sign Markstrom. Andy would be a great backup for Demko and give DiPietro some more time in Utica to develop.
Could maybe see him going back to FLA where his kids live and go to school. Same deal there; solid cheap backup for Bob while giving Knight some more time to develop.
There's loyalty and then there's re-signing a 39-year old goalie who had a .901 SV% and 3.37 GAA over the last 3 seasons.
Totally a fair point, but most goalies would probably have bad numbers behind an awful team
Bruce Garrioch said:The belief is the Florida Panthers will show interest because they’re looking for a veteran to play behind Sergei Boborovsky, There was also speculation Wednesday that, perhaps, the Buffalo Sabres could be a fit.
An organization that demands loyalty but gives none in return. He's respected in Ottawa and it's not like they're going to compete anyway.
You can't just keep re-signing him just because... Eventually you have to move on when the goalie is no longer very good and it's his time.
It’s punks like you that dishonor the loyalty well run NHL teams famously show all their UFAs.He’s 39, and has understandably fallen into steep decline.