Toggle sidebar

OT following the NFL/NFLPA work stoppage; UPD agreement reached

LadyStanley

LadyStanley

Registered User
Sep 22, 2004
106,277
19,355
Sin City
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=370949
Retired players have started a class action suit against the league and (current) players/union.

The group filed a class-action complaint against the owners and current players in federal court Monday, saying they have been excluded from the mediation sessions taking place in an attempt to end the lockout.
...
The retired players say that NFL owners, the NFL Players' Association and a group of current players including star quarterbacks Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are "conspiring to depress the amounts of pension and disability benefits to be paid to former NFL players in order to maximize the salaries and benefits to current NFL players."
Click to expand...
 
kdb209

kdb209

Registered User
Jan 26, 2005
14,870
6
This likely has limited impact on the NFL - since the NFL/NFLPA seem well down the road to settling - but it could impact the NBA Lockout if the NBPA were considering the decertification route.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/09/sports/football/appeals-court-rules-nfl-lockout-is-legal.html

Appeals Court Rules That N.F.L. Lockout Is Legal
By JUDY BATTISTA
Published: July 8, 2011

With negotiations toward a new labor deal in advanced stages, a federal appeals court gave the N.F.L. more leverage over players when it ruled on Friday that the a district court could not stop the league from locking out players and vacated a preliminary injunction issued last spring.

The substance of the ruling, by the Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit in St. Louis, was not surprising because the same three-judge panel earlier issued two delays of the injunction. But the timing of the ruling was a shock. Oral arguments on the league’s appeal of the injunction were heard June 3 and most outsiders thought the court was holding its opinion because negotiations toward a new agreement were progressing and the judges did not want to influence the talks.

While the decision may have broad implications for future labor disputes, the practical effect of the ruling for the N.F.L. negotiations might be negligible. Because both sides expected the court to side with the league, it does not significantly change the dynamics of the current talks. Players and owners were believed to be close Friday morning to settling the revenue split that is at the heart of their dispute, which would move them closer to the completion of a tentative agreement.

...

Friday’s decision was a narrow ruling on whether the district court had jurisdiction to issue the injunction. The court left open the possibility that the players’ antitrust suit against the league could go forward, meaning the N.F.L. could still be subject to damages.

Gary Roberts, the dean of the Indiana University School of Law in Indianapolis who has been analyzing the lockout for the NFL Network, said, "This is an immediate victory for the league but still leaves it at some antitrust risk — a perfect way for the court to give both sides additional incentive to settle and reach a new collective bargaining agreement. "
Click to expand...
 
kdb209

kdb209

Registered User
Jan 26, 2005
14,870
6
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/15/sports/football/deal-reached-on-nfl-rookie-wage-scale.html

With Deal on Rookie Wages, N.F.L. Lockout Nears the End
By JUDY BATTISTA
Published: July 14, 2011

An agreement in principle that would end the four-month-long N.F.L. lockout is within reach for the first time after negotiators for players and owners finally settled on a rookie wage system, clearing one of the last major hurdles that had separated the sides, a person briefed on negotiations said Thursday.

While an agreement on Friday may still be a long shot, the person said players and owners are closer than they have ever been to completing a deal after the breakthrough on rookie compensation. The sides must still resolve several issues, including free-agency rules for 2011: one person directly involved in the negotiations said Thursday there had been no progress on the issue of how many free agents teams would have the right of first refusal on. Another potentially contentious issue is the final disposition of the players’ antitrust lawsuit against the league.

But if an agreement can be forged in the next few days, negotiators could present it to the mediator Judge Arthur Boylan on Tuesday. Then the owners could vote on the deal when they meet in Atlanta on July 21, while players presumably would take steps to re-form their union. That would most likely allow free agency to begin later this month and training camps to open by the end of the month, preserving the preseason. The fate of the first preseason game, the Hall of Fame game, scheduled to be played Aug. 7, is unclear, although the teams scheduled to play in it, the Rams and Bears, were originally scheduled to report to training camp next week. The league had set a deadline of Friday to avoid canceling that game.
Click to expand...
 

Burningblades

Registered User
Apr 13, 2010
651
0
CHRDANHUTCH said:
ESPN NOW REPORTING Salary Cap set/agreed to @ 120 M
Click to expand...

120 x 32 = 3840mil

NFL revenues are around 9000mil so that is 3840/9000 = 43%

That just seems kind of low when the NBA and NHL are both 57% or are there reasons teams salary expenses greatly exceed the amount of cap space used in the NFL?
 
kdb209

kdb209

Registered User
Jan 26, 2005
14,870
6
Burningblades said:
120 x 32 = 3840mil

NFL revenues are around 9000mil so that is 3840/9000 = 43%

That just seems kind of low when the NBA and NHL are both 57% or are there reasons teams salary expenses greatly exceed the amount of cap space used in the NFL?
Click to expand...

The NYTimes piece I quoted above stated that the players are expected to get 46-48% of revenues.
 
Rink Rage

Rink Rage

Registered User
May 2, 2010
1,758
3
Phoenix, Arizona
The more I think about it, I think the NFL could still take major damage if the lockout ends soon. With all the players not being able to work out at team facilities and not being able to get their timing down, this could really hurt the NFL. If the players aren't at their best, that could really hurt the product on the field. A bad product can be just as damaging as no product.
 
LadyStanley

LadyStanley

Registered User
Sep 22, 2004
106,277
19,355
Sin City
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=371891

A number of things settled, but still some significant sticking points to resolve.

More talk Saturday. Sides scheduled to meet with mediator (who's been on vacation) on Tuesday. Tentative NFL BOG meeting on Thursday.

In addition to the league/owner side of things, the union reps, players who started anti-trust case, and a few other litigants, have to all approve the deal.

No preseason games have been canceled yet (first is 8/7), but there wouldn't be much time for teams to "come together" to work on plays, etc. (Perhaps a lot of audibles will be called?)
 
LadyStanley

LadyStanley

Registered User
Sep 22, 2004
106,277
19,355
Sin City
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...-effort-is-accounted-for-in-the-upcoming-cba/

The coming CBA has included three “stadium credits†for future potential sites, and the 49ers’ situation is included in them, according to a high-ranking NFL source.

The credits are a precursor to the establishment of a loan program. It’s not the players doing the loaning, but the CBA had to create a mechanism so that loan money is removed from the percentage split with the players.

Next, the owners have to decide to actually loan the money, and that’s no gimme.

But now the owners don’t have to worry that they’ll pay twice–the percentage to the players, then the loan to one of their fellow owners.

It’s like getting a tax break if you purchase a car–you only get the break if you actually purchase the car, so what do you do? You purchase the car.

* It means that the 49ers’ Santa Clara hopes just cleared a big hurdle.
Click to expand...

Interesting.
 
LadyStanley

LadyStanley

Registered User
Sep 22, 2004
106,277
19,355
Sin City
http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/20/11/...uld-be-aut/landing&blockID=542446&feedID=2539

Jim Trotter of SI.com reported via Twitter on Tuesday that some of the player representatives are “expecting a spirited debate.†Why a spirited debate? As Trotted explained it, “ome players feel they finally have leverage and want to use it.†(If having “leverage†means relying on the fact that they’ll lose only $96 million for each week of the preseason that is canceled and that the owners will lose $104 million, then the players apparently have “leverage.â€)

Truth be told, there should be no debate. There should be no discussion. There should be no hesitation. The players hired DeMaurice Smith for one purpose: To stand in front of the proverbial tank in Tiananmen Square and force the owners to greatly reduce their demands for givebacks in the new labor deal. After months of maneuverings and rhetoric and, ultimately, negotiations, Smith has forged an agreement that he is willing to recommend to the players.

Put simply, if the players won’t immediately accept the recommendation of the man whom they hired to make a recommendation they could immediately accept, then they should immediately fire De Smith
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Ad

Latest posts

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad

Top Bottom