OT: Basketball Prospects Skipping College To Play In NBA..School Is A Waste Of Time

[jetsv2]

But this exact instance - high school talent going to the pros instead of college - is exactly why the "pay college athletes!" argument completely falls apart: Players have a choice.

When you decide to go to college, you're WILLINGLY FORGOING your profitability for the college experience. Playing professionally out of high school IS AN OPTION (and the fact that the NBA doesn't offer that option isn't the NCAA's fault).

Except football players don't get that choice, they can't go straight to the NFL from high school they have to wait at least 3 years.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

They could play in the CFL - except they aren't good enough to do even that. Football is different than basketball in that hardly any high school seniors are ready to play in a man's football league. Adrian Peterson was a beast coming out of high school, but even he doubtlessly benefited from the training regime and coaching at OU.

With regard to having an interest in college..90%+ the guys we're talking about here wouldn't have gone to college even if they never touched a ball in their lives. But even the ones that perhaps would have are not going to be very intrigued by the idea of being a student given that even as high schoolers people are already showering them with money and perks. The money and adulation will turn their heads..it's happened to plenty of more mature, brighter people than your average 16 year old.

 

[StreetHawk]

Each sport has their own requirements.

Non CHL drafted players can go to the A. Baseball can go in the minor leagues. Basketball can go to another pro league in another country.

Football that’s the most difficult one due to the raw physicality of the sport. Can a teenager actually play against men in their late 20’s?

Even dropping the age down to 2 years out of school would be a huge change.

 

[End on a Hinote]

I'm of the opposite mindset. School will always be there and you can always go later on in life, whether it be a year or 20 years from now. Your potential pro career however is finite.

Agreed.

How many people go back to college at 30? Now how many decide to be a pro athlete at 30?

 

[joelef]

They could play in the CFL - except they aren't good enough to do even that. Football is different than basketball in that hardly any high school seniors are ready to play in a man's football league. Adrian Peterson was a beast coming out of high school, but even he doubtlessly benefited from the training regime and coaching at OU.

With regard to having an interest in college..90%+ the guys we're talking about here wouldn't have gone to college even if they never touched a ball in their lives. But even the ones that perhaps would have are not going to be very intrigued by the idea of being a student given that even as high schoolers people are already showering them with money and perks. The money and adulation will turn their heads..it's happened to plenty of more mature, brighter people than your average 16 year old.

then they shouldn't be there if you can't make it on merit,

 

[joelef]

They could play in the CFL - except they aren't good enough to do even that. Football is different than basketball in that hardly any high school seniors are ready to play in a man's football league. Adrian Peterson was a beast coming out of high school, but even he doubtlessly benefited from the training regime and coaching at OU.

With regard to having an interest in college..90%+ the guys we're talking about here wouldn't have gone to college even if they never touched a ball in their lives. But even the ones that perhaps would have are not going to be very intrigued by the idea of being a student given that even as high schoolers people are already showering them with money and perks. The money and adulation will turn their heads..it's happened to plenty of more mature, brighter people than your average 16 year old.

europe soccer players are already pros by this age.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

They could play in the CFL - except they aren't good enough to do even that. Football is different than basketball in that hardly any high school seniors are ready to play in a man's football league. Adrian Peterson was a beast coming out of high school, but even he doubtlessly benefited from the training regime and coaching at OU.

With regard to having an interest in college..90%+ the guys we're talking about here wouldn't have gone to college even if they never touched a ball in their lives. But even the ones that perhaps would have are not going to be very intrigued by the idea of being a student given that even as high schoolers people are already showering them with money and perks. The money and adulation will turn their heads..it's happened to plenty of more mature, brighter people than your average 16 year old.

Im sorry, but if the top college recruits went to the CFL, they'd dominate it

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

europe soccer players are already pros by this age.

Soccer isn't American football. Football players generally need to beef up a *lot* which is what they do for the 1st year of college ball typically.

 

[varsaku]

europe soccer players are already pros by this age.

Soccer is heavily skilled based which is something that doesn’t improve significantly beyond that age. However, football is heavily reliant on size and toughness which only comes with time and age.

 

[Beauner]

But this exact instance - high school talent going to the pros instead of college - is exactly why the "pay college athletes!" argument completely falls apart: Players have a choice.

When you decide to go to college, you're WILLINGLY FORGOING your profitability for the college experience. Playing professionally out of high school IS AN OPTION (and the fact that the NBA doesn't offer that option isn't the NCAA's fault).

Yes, in a foreign country with possibly a foreign language and culture. And as a reminder, these are 18 year olds we're talking about. For some, they are mature enough (both mentally and physically) to handle that situation. Many are not. But you can't call uprooting your life and moving to a different country at 18(!) to go play a sport a really viable option. I see no reason why a college athlete can't make some cash for doing an autograph signing or a TV ad for a car dealership. Especially for those who aren't there for the "college experience", and instead there because it's a stepping stone to playing professionally somewhere.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

But you can't call uprooting your life and moving to a different country at 18(!) to go play a sport a really viable option.

A lot of these kids are going hundreds or thousands of miles away for college anyways.

 

[Baxterman]

It seems this guy is really overrating the prevalence of this now and going forward,

I mean he says "Finding an alternative to college is on the fast track from anomaly to normalcy. Hampton’s decision is emblematic of the attitudes of high school basketball players toward college as we hurtle toward potentially seismic changes coming to the NBA draft in 2022." and then uses 4 examples and the always technical "and a few others."

And it isn't like the guys mentioned are super star recruits or stud NBA players. Sure Mudiay was ranked high but had a lot of questions about him that seem to have become true in the NBA and with his decision to go to overseas.

Sure college is not for everyone, but it isn't like these guys are forced to take Senior level astrophysics and really most of these kids should realize that taking advantage of a college degree, a chance that many of them wouldn't have had without basketball, is likely the best way they have of maximizing their future earnings. Top recruits every single year fail to make it to the NBA let alone guys ranked lower.

If someone is against going to school then they shouldn't go but acting like going overseas is a better option than going to college is pretty silly to me.

 

[joelef]

It seems this guy is really overrating the prevalence of this now and going forward,

I mean he says "Finding an alternative to college is on the fast track from anomaly to normalcy. Hampton’s decision is emblematic of the attitudes of high school basketball players toward college as we hurtle toward potentially seismic changes coming to the NBA draft in 2022." and then uses 4 examples and the always technical "and a few others."

And it isn't like the guys mentioned are super star recruits or stud NBA players. Sure Mudiay was ranked high but had a lot of questions about him that seem to have become true in the NBA and with his decision to go to overseas.

Sure college is not for everyone, but it isn't like these guys are forced to take Senior level astrophysics and really most of these kids should realize that taking advantage of a college degree, a chance that many of them wouldn't have had without basketball, is likely the best way they have of maximizing their future earnings. Top recruits every single year fail to make it to the NBA let alone guys ranked lower.

If someone is against going to school then they shouldn't go but acting like going overseas is a better option than going to college is pretty silly to me.

some people just don't care about going to college and frankly shouldn't be there. also get this.. YOU CAN GO BACK TO COLLEGE.

 

[Baxterman]

some people just don't care about going to college and frankly shouldn't be there. also get this.. YOU CAN GO BACK TO COLLEGE.

Ok what does that have to do with anything I said?

I mean I said right in my post that college is not for everyone.