OT: Apparently, college basketball is as bad as ever.

Rink Rage

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According to a lot college basketball people/fans I've talked to, last nights National Championship game was as maybe the worst ever, and the tournament is as bad as it's been and I also heard complaints about the championship game last year.

With two back to back bad National Championship games, could we see fans looking somewhere else for a sports to watch? (like the NHL)

Question for mods: Is it ok if I post link, to a thread from another forum where a fan(s) is ranting about this?
 
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Last year's final was very good. Seems like this whole thread is based off 1 game. And if basketball fans are turned off by bad basketball, they will turn to the NBA, not hockey.
 

Oscar Acosta

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^^ Exactly.

We've seen bad hockey games, bad finals played out, bad World Junior parity and still return for more hockey because we're hockey fans.

They'll do the same. One bad game isn't going to set the NHL on fire in the basketball community.
 

Fidel Astro

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Yep. I stopped watching hockey for years out of frustration with the NHL after the Jets, Nordiques and Whalers (my three favourite teams at the time) were relocated.

I didn't watch a single basketball, football or baseball game. I have no interest in any of those sports. Not watching hockey didn't mean I would automatically have to switch to some other sport I didn't care about.

I'm sure basketball fans are the same. Why would they want to watch hockey?
 

krudmonk

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It was pretty clear that they were kids out there, just running around and thinking they can gun it for 40 minutes.
 

MayDay

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It was on last night?

I was watching Rangers-Bruins.

Never understood why people make such a big deal out of minor league basketball.
 

tarheelhockey

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For the most part I think its a more interesting brand of basketball then the NBA.

It's the closest thing to "good" basketball that you can easily find on television. It still has its duds, like last night, but in general college basketball is really good for those who have a rooting interest. Comparable to junior hockey.

That said, a crappy WJC final would not convince hockey fans to watch the NBA.
 

Moo

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Last night's game was bad because Butler couldn't shoot. If Butler could shoot, it would have been much better. High scoring it wasn't, but there ARE other aspects than offense, and the game had it. But 18 percent shooting mars everything else.

There is also the fact that because Butler, a mid-major, was in the title game twice, some people hate it. Which is wrong because I get sick of the fact that it always has to be a power conference in the title game.

Also, how did last year's title game suck? It was intense and close. Duke barely won. What more could you ask for, triple OT or something?

But with all of this said, I honestly ask how does a bad national title game affect the business of hockey? Is this thread really worth being in this forum? It seems like it should be in the basketball forum because other than one fan being upset, there isn't anything that statistically, financially, etc., affects hockey out of this.
 

Moo

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It was on last night?

I was watching Rangers-Bruins.

Never understood why people make such a big deal out of minor league basketball.

It's the fact that, unlike football and its busted system, any team has a shot at winning it all. You have the upsets and Cinderella runs. You have those amazing last-second shots and tight games. Everybody does a bracket and will care for a game they otherwise wouldn't because their bracket livelihood depends on it.

Quite simply, it's a very magical time that is unmatched by any other sport.
 

Finlandia WOAT

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It was on last night?

I was watching Rangers-Bruins.

Never understood why people make such a big deal out of minor league basketball.

Compared to the NBA, college is much superior.

The players care much more, and are much more physical.

And I say this as a person who is of the utmost indifference to basketball of any kind.

College= meh.

NBA = Fail.
 

barneyg

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Two months of Stanley Cup playoffs beat a few weeks of college basketball any year, for drama, excitement, thrilling endings, etc.

The fact that a majority of people don't appreciate that fact doesn't change it.

The best thing is that as a diehard hockey fan and fairweather college hoops fan I actually get to enjoy both because they don't happen at the same time, like, at all.

That said, I think it would be appropriate to remove the "Kinda" from the thread title.
 

tarheelhockey

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Two months of Stanley Cup playoffs beat a few weeks of college basketball any year, for drama, excitement, thrilling endings, etc.

The fact that a majority of people don't appreciate that fact doesn't change it.

Some years, yes, but not every year. There have been years where the NCAA tournament was non-stop drama and the NHL playoffs were like watching paint dry. 2007 springs to mind.
 

Rink Rage

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Last year's final was very good. Seems like this whole thread is based off 1 game. And if basketball fans are turned off by bad basketball, they will turn to the NBA, not hockey.

There are plenty of NBA fans that don't watch college basketball, and there is plenty of college hoop fans that don't watch NBA.

And plus, what do they watch next year when they can't watch NBA, and college basketball keeps getting worse and worse (until they get rid of the one and done rule)
 

Rink Rage

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Yep. I stopped watching hockey for years out of frustration with the NHL after the Jets, Nordiques and Whalers (my three favourite teams at the time) were relocated.

I didn't watch a single basketball, football or baseball game. I have no interest in any of those sports. Not watching hockey didn't mean I would automatically have to switch to some other sport I didn't care about.

I'm sure basketball fans are the same. Why would they want to watch hockey?
Actually after the lockout, I caught myself watching a lot more NBA, NFL, NBA, NCAAB, and it took me a while to get back into hockey.
 

Melrose Munch

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Nope.



Two months of Stanley Cup playoffs beat a few weeks of college basketball any year, for drama, excitement, thrilling endings, etc.

The fact that a majority of people don't appreciate that fact doesn't change it.
If you don't like Basketball why are you in this thread. And the 2002, 2003, 2006 were all garbage so you can cut that Stanley Cup beats anything Garbage. And yes the fact a majority appriciate it does, because if they did the NHL would not be a late night joke punchline anymore.
 

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You do realize that college hoops supply the majority of the NBA players?

Only somewhat.

Most top NBA prospects are one and done meaning they stay for one season at college and jump straight to the draft. The majority of players, however, stay four years, and frequently end up picked in the later round if at all. Duke leading scorer, JJ Redick wasn't picked till the second round of a 2 round draft. Villanova star Scottie Reynolds ended up in Europe. In fact, a vast majority of players head to Europe rather than the NBA.


If you don't like Basketball why are you in this thread. And the 2002, 2003, 2006 were all garbage so you can cut that Stanley Cup beats anything Garbage. And yes the fact a majority appriciate it does, because if they did the NHL would not be a late night joke punchline anymore.

I'm not saying the Cup has its duds (06-07 comes to mind) but those are poor examples. You got all you could ask for in 03 & 06. Cinderella runs, game sevens, overtimes, big hits, goalies standing on their heads. Paul Kariya scoring the GWG minutes after being plastered by Scott Stevens is Anaheim legend, and everyone knows of Edmonton trolling the West.
 

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Saw on Twitter that Butler's 18% shooting percentage in the game did just barely beat North Dakota's 16.7% shooting percentage over its last 2 NCAA hockey tournament games :laugh:
 

Dado

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It was a horrible game - the exact opposite of, say, Duke-UNLV.

Then again, there have been horrible Super Bowls, horrible World Series, and even, yes, horrible Stanley Cup Finals.

They can't all be classics...
 

Rink Rage

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darrenrovell 9:47am via Web Overnight rating from last night's champ game was a 13.3, down 16.8% from last year's Duke-Butler game.

Here's more:
This marks the fourth-lowest rated National Championship Game ever, ahead of only 2009 (UNC/MSU: 10.8), 2004 (CONN/CT: 11.0), and 2006 (UF/UCLA: 11.2). Connecticut has now played in two of the four lowest-rated games.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.net/2011/04/final-four-connecticutbutler-title-game.html
 

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