Oshawa Generals 2018-19 Season Thread (Part 2)

[fishfan51]

I meant more that if he’s hurt it could derail a trade. Because he’s all but guaranteed to be out of niagara in 2 weeks if he’s healthy

If Moore is hurt, do you think the Gens back off from the rumoured deal? After all, if you’re getting Moore in the deal, it’s not for this year anyway. It would be for the next couple.

 

[Generalsupdates]

If Moore is hurt, do you think the Gens back off from the rumoured deal? After all, if you’re getting Moore in the deal, it’s not for this year anyway. It would be for the next couple.

Depends what the injury is. The Gens still very much want to win a playoff series this year

 

[Naz]

If Moore is hurt, do you think the Gens back off from the rumoured deal? After all, if you’re getting Moore in the deal, it’s not for this year anyway. It would be for the next couple.

If the rumor is true Studnika and Brassard for Moore and Tomacasico, a forward would have to be part of the trade as the General's would be needing a forward.

 

[Drop the Puck]

If the rumor is true Studnika and Brassard for Moore and Tomacasico, a forward would have to be part of the trade as the General's would be needing a forward.

I do to think #26 is involved in the original rumour

 

[fishfan51]

If the rumor is true Studnika and Brassard for Moore and Tomacasico, a forward would have to be part of the trade as the General's would be needing a forward.

The rumour was Moore and picks. There’s no way the Dogs would be giving up Moore and Tomasino.

 

[Naz]

The rumour was Moore and picks. There’s no way the Dogs would be giving up Moore and Tomasino.

Just repeating what ohlinsider rumored in one of his tweets.

 

[Drop the Puck]

I believe that he rumoured #26 heading that way in the summer

 

[Generalsupdates]

I believe that he rumoured #26 heading that way in the summer

For what it's worth, Allan Etmanski, who is a reputable source, says he was told by 3 people that it was Moore+Tomasino for Brassard+Studnicka

 

[fishfan51]

The pinned tweet from OHLinsiders....

 

[Generalsupdates]

The pinned tweet from OHLinsiders....

Yeah. I'm sure that Studnicka+Brassard to NIA is going to happen since so many people are saying it. But OHL insiders also said he was hearing Tomasino might be going to the Gens and then a week later Allan says he was told that by 3 different people. We'll see in a week, but it is interesting that 2 completely different sources said the same thing

 

[fishfan51]

Yeah. I'm sure that Studnicka+Brassard to NIA is going to happen since so many people are saying it. But OHL insiders also said he was hearing Tomasino might be going to the Gens and then a week later Allan says he was told that by 3 different people. We'll see in a week, but it is interesting that 2 completely different sources said the same thing

If Tomasino goes, I’d think it would be after the season. It doesn’t make sense for Niagara to take him out of the line-up the way he’s playing. My guess based on the rumours is Moore and picks for Brassard and Studnicka followed by Tomasino for a bunch of picks during the summer.

FWIW, Matt and DJ who are basically IceDog beat reporters that have a weekly tv show, Twitter and Facebook page for all things IceDogs have said they have numerous sources saying there is no truth to the rumours.

 

[Drop the Puck]

FWIW, Matt and DJ who are basically IceDog beat reporters that have a weekly tv show, Twitter and Facebook page for all things IceDogs have said they have numerous sources saying there is no truth to the rumours.

It was also reported that ID’s management was very upset about the leak. Perhaps Matt and D.J. are puppets of the Burke’s and were used to diffuse the rumours. Which is another situation on its own. Matt and DJ’s credibility may come into question.

It’s all very interesting.

 

[Generalsupdates]

If Tomasino goes, I’d think it would be after the season. It doesn’t make sense for Niagara to take him out of the line-up the way he’s playing. My guess based on the rumours is Moore and picks for Brassard and Studnicka followed by Tomasino for a bunch of picks during the summer.

FWIW, Matt and DJ who are basically IceDog beat reporters that have a weekly tv show, Twitter and Facebook page for all things IceDogs have said they have numerous sources saying there is no truth to the rumours.

They seem say that every single time a trade is leaked and then the trade happens. When OHL insiders said Robertson to NIA, they said there was no truth to it. A week later it happened

 

[Generalsupdates]

Huge for Nando and Nico to lead that Switzerland team to a massive upset over Sweden. The Gens clearly have Swiss contacts, Luca Hollenstein would look good in the Gens net next year.. He plays for the team that Gross played for before he came over

 

[sakic 19]

Why wouldn't oshawa draft a younger goalie in the euro draft. One that would be here for more than a year. Next season is not a championship team. Rocca is building a team that will hopefully host the memorial cup in 2021.
So drafting a goalie born in 2001 or 2002 would make more sense.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Why wouldn't oshawa draft a younger goalie in the euro draft. One that would be here for more than a year. Next season is not a championship team. Rocca is building a team that will hopefully host the memorial cup in 2021.
So drafting a goalie born in 2001 or 2002 would make more sense.

Hollenstein wasn't drafted, so he would likely be here for 2 years, if he was willing to come to North America

 

[Generalsupdates]

Bruins reporter confirming the rumours everyone has been hearing

 

[GeneralConversation]

Bruins reporter confirming the rumours everyone has been hearing

Sucky. I like Jack.

 

[GeneralConversation]

Why wouldn't oshawa draft a younger goalie in the euro draft. One that would be here for more than a year. Next season is not a championship team. Rocca is building a team that will hopefully host the memorial cup in 2021.
So drafting a goalie born in 2001 or 2002 would make more sense.

Drafted an 01 (in the u18 draft) and an 02 (in the priority draft) last year. The 01 plays JRB and the 02 JRA
The 02 is the current backup until Keyser comes back.

For what it’s worth, I’ve never seen the 01 play. I have however seen Sbrocca play. He’s got a ton of talent, just unfortunately raw. He needs time. I would assume they’ll evaluate him over the rest of this year in JRA and the summer to see if another young goalie is needed or just a solid vet. You can never have too many good goalies to choose from. Just hard to find them.)))

 

[Generalsupdates]

Sucky. I like Jack.

Yeah he’s a hell of a player. What’s weird though is I don’t think trading him (assuming everyone else stays) changes our ceiling this year.

With Jack you finish 3/4 and hopefully win 1 round then likely lose to NIA or OTT in the 2nd round

Without Jack you probably finish 4-5 and hopefully win 1 round then likely lose to OTT in the 2nd round

 

[GeneralConversation]

Yeah he’s a hell of a player. What’s weird though is I don’t think trading him (assuming everyone else stays) changes our ceiling this year.

With Jack you finish 3/4 and hopefully win 1 round then likely lose to NIA or OTT in the 2nd round

Without Jack you probably finish 4-5 and hopefully win 1 round then likely lose to OTT in the 2nd round

I’m puzzled by the Salinitri trade. Maybe it was favor or something. Or once the Niagara deal went down, Hunt decided the market was too expensive this year, and now he’s backing out. If Jack goes then you have to deal Keyser. It just makes sense. But if the market is dry for a goalie than you can just ride him until he ‘s done.

 

[Jaycro]

Yeah, the Salinitri deal is a puzzler. I had been seeking two elite snipers to make a run this year and Salinitri would have sufficed as one of those had the Gens decided to make a run at things. Now, I wonder? He could be moved to a contender like Ottawa who have 2 OA spots. Dying waiting to see what we get for Studnicka and Brassard!

 

[Generalsupdates]

I’m puzzled by the Salinitri trade. Maybe it was favor or something. Or once the Niagara deal went down, Hunt decided the market was too expensive this year, and now he’s backing out. If Jack goes then you have to deal Keyser. It just makes sense. But if the market is dry for a goalie than you can just ride him until he ‘s done.

Salinitri trade combines with the Commisso trade though.

Commisso to Guelph for 2nd in ‘24, 2nd in ‘23 and 5th in ‘21

Got Salinitri for 2nd in ‘19, 2nd in ‘22 and 4th in ‘22


So switched a next year 2nd which they wouldn’t have had room to use for a ‘24 2nd they can still use as a trade and everything else basically washes out. Commission with 1 goal in 28 games for Guelph. Salinitri with 11 goals in 12 games in Oshawa. And at the end of the day all it cost was dropping from the 4th round to the 5th round

 

[Nerf27]

Salinitri trade combines with the Commisso trade though.

Commisso to Guelph for 2nd in ‘24, 2nd in ‘23 and 5th in ‘21

Got Salinitri for 2nd in ‘19, 2nd in ‘22 and 4th in ‘22


So switched a next year 2nd which they wouldn’t have had room to use for a ‘24 2nd they can still use as a trade and everything else basically washes out. Commission with 1 goal in 28 games for Guelph. Salinitri with 11 goals in 12 games in Oshawa. And at the end of the day all it cost was dropping from the 4th round to the 5th round

Exactly and it would still be nice to get Noel McShane Antropov Brewer the rookies and potential new player(s) some playoff experience heading into a potential run next year. Watching them play without the 4 at WJC especially Keyser just shows they don’t have the depth this year to beat Ottawa/Niagara but can still be competitive. It reminds me more and more of the set up year to 14/15. Noel is going to be at least a 40 goal man next year and McShane will double anything he gets this year if he’s healthy. Look out for Antropov as well. Next year is the year IMHO

 

[Jaycro]

Again, why Salinitri this year? Yes the cost was the same as Commisso but what was the point? Next year is the target and he will not be around!