Speculation: Oscar Klefbom to NYR

[ThePhoenixx]

Exactly! That's why you can't bring in a 4M winger. That's my point...those roster spots need to be value, a.k.a. cheap

How is 9 mil to upgrade three minimum wage players going cheap? Sign two for the same price and you have 6-7 mil left over for just one player.

 

[yababy]

How is 9 mil to upgrade three minimum wage players going cheap? Sign two for the same price and you have 6-7 mil left over for just one player.

60m committed so 15m available to fill 6 roster spots. Plan on 4m of that to Nurse and 3m for Strome.
Those RFAs will want raises.
Sleppy, Benning, Caggulia, and Pakarainen.
Only one we should keep there is Benning. Say 1.5m
Gotta get some cheap veterans for
The 3rd and 4th lines...better than Camalleri

 

[ManofSteel55]

Your new guy is more expensive than Klefbom. You overpaid Nurse.

The new guy would have to be more expensive than Klefbom because we aren't getting the caliber of player at RD we need at Klefbom's salary. Klefbom is on a good cap hit. Which is why it stinks that our idiot GM is probably going to trade him. I paid Nurse on the high end rather than underpaying and being called out for undercutting a salary to make it work.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Exactly! That's why you can't bring in a 4M winger. That's my point...those roster spots need to be value, a.k.a. cheap

We'll have some cheap contracts to offset things a bit. Aberg, Cagguila, Rattie, Khaira, and Bear are all going to make under one million next year.

 

[Hockey Nightmare]

We'll give you Sekera and you will like it.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

The new guy would have to be more expensive than Klefbom because we aren't getting the caliber of player at RD we need at Klefbom's salary. Klefbom is on a good cap hit. Which is why it stinks that our idiot GM is probably going to trade him. I paid Nurse on the high end rather than underpaying and being called out for undercutting a salary to make it work.

Fair enough.

We could maybe wait to call him an idiot GM for trading Klefbom after he actually (maybe) does it.

I for one believe from what was said by management et al. that both he and RNH are back next year. I think people are getting worked up over something that is not going to happen.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

60m committed so 15m available to fill 6 roster spots. Plan on 4m of that to Nurse and 3m for Strome.
Those RFAs will want raises.
Sleppy, Benning, Caggulia, and Pakarainen.
Only one we should keep there is Benning. Say 1.5m
Gotta get some cheap veterans for
The 3rd and 4th lines...better than Camalleri

Those RFA's do not deserve raises and every single one of them can be QO'd at their current salary. If they go to arbitration then you cut them loose or trade them if they win anything more. They are fringe NHLers and probably the ones the Oilers would replace.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Fair enough.

We could maybe wait to call him an idiot GM for trading Klefbom after he actually (maybe) does it.

I for one believe from what was said by management et al. that both he and RNH are back next year. I think people are getting worked up over something that is not going to happen.

He's an idiot GM for past moves, not because he is for sure trading Klefbom.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Fair enough.

We could maybe wait to call him an idiot GM for trading Klefbom after he actually (maybe) does it.

I for one believe from what was said by management et al. that both he and RNH are back next year. I think people are getting worked up over something that is not going to happen.

Well those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it and Chiarelli has an established history.

Maybe it won't happen but his history suggests it's likely.

He also has a history of speaking well in press conference and then acting stupidly so I wouldn't put any weight into what he tells the media.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Chia doesn't trade players at their lowest value.

He trades players near their highest value for 10cents on the dollar.

Then signs UFA's to ridiculous contracts with NMC.

 

[MarkMessyay11]

As a Rangers fan, I guess you almost have to do it to maximize Zucc's value. Not completely sold on it, but it's one of those deals that's in line with what they're trying to accomplish. Though I think the org is still really high on Kreider being part of their core moving forward.

As a Rangers fan looking at it from an Oilers perspective, no way they entertain this. Zucc may be a good target for them...I think he'd be a great fit for McDavid's wing, he's an excellent leader, and the exact type of guy Edmonton should want in their locker room. But I don't think they'd be willing to part with Puljujarvi or Klefbom for him.

 

[Machinehead]

I think there may be a deal here, but Kreider is untouchable unless the return is laughable.

 

[tradenashnow]

Not sure if Fourth Period is a good source? They mentioned Oilers would entertain offers for Oscar. The Oilers need wingers .

To Oilers .....Zuke and Kreider

To Rangers...Poolparty and Oscar

I believe Kreider is best player out of the 4. We try to develop Poolparty. Oilers use Zuke for the year and make a playoff push and decide if he is worth resigning. Oscar cost controlled potential top 4? Rangers sign JVR to replace Kreider.

Wouldn't trade Kreider for Klefbom in a million years. Puhlease. Rangers just acquired 3 talented defenseman prospect near NHL ready. Unlike the Oilers, they have a solid track record developing defenseman. They also have a ton of high picks in a deep draft for defenseman. Easy pass.

 

[Machinehead]

Wouldn't trade Kreider for Klefbom in a million years. Puhlease. Rangers just acquired 3 talented defenseman prospect near NHL ready. Unlike the Oilers, they have a solid track record developing defenseman. They also have a ton of high picks in a deep draft for defenseman. Easy pass.

 

[yababy]

I think there may be a deal here, but Kreider is untouchable unless the return is laughable.

Next word out of your mouth is Draisaitl, isn't it?
If I had 25 cents for the # of deals proposed for Drai from other teams

 

[Machinehead]

Next word out of your mouth is Draisaitl, isn't it?
If I had 25 cents for the # of deals proposed for Drai from other teams

Didn't say anything about Draisaitl.

However, it's been reported on the Rangers beat that Lundqvist, Chytil, and Kreider are untouchable.

 

[tradenashnow]

Sad our own fan base doesn't know our history. Staal, Stralman, Girardi, Rosival, McDonagh, Skjei. This with barely any first round picks. Stralman and Rosival were considered nothing before NY developed them. Amazing how our own fans discount that their team was one of the best defensive teams in hockey for a decade, yet they still think all the defenseman stunk. Typical though. They have given the forwards on this team a pass for about 12 years.

When the Oilers can actually put together a defenseman core that can keep the puck out of their net, wake me. The facts don't lie. Their team has been awful defensively for a decade. I'm pretty sure if their defenseman were any good, that wouldn't be the case.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

any deal for Klefbom probably has to involve a down-the-road replacement, i.e. one of Pionk/Gilmour/DeAngelo

Zucc + 1 of the aforementioned D men

for

Klefbom + 2nd/3rd to even it out

 

[Shootertooter]

any deal for Klefbom probably has to involve a down-the-road replacement, i.e. one of Pionk/Gilmour/DeAngelo

Zucc + 1 of the aforementioned D men

for

Klefbom + 2nd/3rd to even it out

Take the 2nd/3rd out. I think the Rangers are pretty high on Pionk, I don't know if they would consider moving him at this point. Gilmour is the only LHD in the group to actually replace Klefbom's position.

 

[TGWL]

Sad our own fan base doesn't know our history. Staal, Stralman, Girardi, Rosival, McDonagh, Skjei. This with barely any first round picks. Stralman and Rosival were considered nothing before NY developed them. Amazing how our own fans discount that their team was one of the best defensive teams in hockey for a decade, yet they still think all the defenseman stunk. Typical though. They have given the forwards on this team a pass for about 12 years.

When the Oilers can actually put together a defenseman core that can keep the puck out of their net, wake me. The facts don't lie. Their team has been awful defensively for a decade. I'm pretty sure if their defenseman were any good, that wouldn't be the case.

Stralman came in as a free agent and looked good. So we re-signed him. Perhaps he didn't showcase his talent elsewhere, but we didn't "develop" him. You're reaching on that one. For Rosival, he played 4 seasons with the Penguins prior to joining us and wasn't exactly a turd on the ice. We got him around his prime age, and his TOI increased with the lack of depth we had on defense. McDonagh was traded to us, spent little time in our development and never looked back. I suppose you can make the argument that we turned him into a captain #1, etc. Guys like Staal, Girardi, Skjei and Sauer are better examples.

 

[TGWL]

Take the 2nd/3rd out. I think the Rangers are pretty high on Pionk, I don't know if they would consider moving him at this point. Gilmour is the only LHD in the group to actually replace Klefbom's position.

Gilmour sucks though. He's a really, really fast skater, but that's all he has.

 

[CupofOil]

I think there may be a deal here, but Kreider is untouchable unless the return is laughable.

Same with Klefbom. I think it's ridiculous that he's even included in any proposals that are sideways moves. One of the few bargain contracts the Oilers have, a Dman not yet in his prime that has already played at a top pairing level at times in his career and still has room for growth.

If I'm the GM, I'm not trading that guy unless it's an offer that I can't refuse. Unfortunately, Chia is the GM so I expect Klefbom to the Isles for Nelson.

 

[Dan Kelly]

any deal for Klefbom probably has to involve a down-the-road replacement, i.e. one of Pionk/Gilmour/DeAngelo

Zucc + 1 of the aforementioned D men

for

Klefbom + 2nd/3rd to even it out

Zucc + Pionk please!!!

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Zucc + Pionk please!!!

Ugh no. We don't need anymore left handed defenseman.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Zucc + Pionk please!!!

Pionk would probably require that 2nd. Management seems to be pretty high on him