Interesting to see the different opinions, I actually agreed with him that Puempel is the better goal scorer with the more likely chance to succeed at the NHL level. Too bad he got injured last year, he seemed to be gaining comfort. Not sure about Prince as the energy/speed guy, though, he was much more than that in the OHL and AHL and if he makes it in the NHL I think it will be because he's able to produce offense.
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Interesting to see the different opinions, I actually agreed with him that Puempel is the better goal scorer with the more likely chance to succeed at the NHL level. Too bad he got injured last year, he seemed to be gaining comfort. Not sure about Prince as the energy/speed guy, though, he was much more than that in the OHL and AHL and if he makes it in the NHL I think it will be because he's able to produce offense.
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Since the draft I have always thought that the organization valued Puempel over Prince mostly because Puempel was a 1st rd draft pick & we all know how highly they value those. I was convinced after they gave Puempel a lot more games last yr as well & would have kept him there for the remainder of the season I think if he didn't get hurt. I don't know if Puempel will make the team out of camp but he will be given every opportunity. Points aren't everything & while Prince played well in Bingo last yr, we don't know what the organization is looking for exactly. Maybe they asked Puempel to work harder on his defensive game & not worry about scoring goals since they knew he could already do that & wanted him to be a more rounded player. I still think that he will be in Ottawa very soon if not right out of camp.
Obviously with Pageau given a new one way contract he will probably be the 3rd line centre on this team to start the yr. But after watching Nick Paul at the development camp I can't help but think how good this guy is going to be & he is going to challenge for a roster spot real soon. I could see Paul with his size start his NHL career at some point this yr maybe after the trade deadline. I think at some point Lazar & Paul could end up being this team's 3rd & 4th line centres, we`ll see.
Obviously with Pageau given a new one way contract he will probably be the 3rd line centre on this team to start the yr. But after watching Nick Paul at the development camp I can't help but think how good this guy is going to be & he is going to challenge for a roster spot real soon. I could see Paul with his size start his NHL career at some point this yr maybe after the trade deadline. I think at some point Lazar & Paul could end up being this team's 3rd & 4th line centres, we`ll see.
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I think Prince is a better goal scorer then Puempel
Prince brings more to the table in a Top 6 role with his speed & playmaking ability .. Prince being able to create his own offence is a massive bonus ..I see Prince bringing a lot more to a Zibanejad & Ryan line
Puempel plays more of a physical game also scores most of his goals in front or crashing the net I think Puempel would look great and bring a lot to our 3rd line with Pageau & Lazar.
I just hope we can find away to get these goal scorers in our line up this season
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Hoffman-Zibanejad-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Stone
Michalek-Pageau-Lazar
Puempel-Smith-Chiasson
Prince first call-up and probably sticks if Chiasson not playing well.
Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Ceci
Cowen-Boro
Wideman
Wideman first call-up and sticks if Cowen isn't playing well... or Wiercioch.
Anderson
Hammond
LMFAO, I applaud you I laughed so hard, man.
MacArthur-Turris-Stone
Michalek-Pageau-Lazar
Puempel-Smith-Chiasson
Prince first call-up and probably sticks if Chiasson not playing well.
Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Ceci
Cowen-Boro
Wideman
Wideman first call-up and sticks if Cowen isn't playing well... or Wiercioch.
Anderson
Hammond
LMFAO, I applaud you I laughed so hard, man.
Ya, agree with RKL completely.
Is Prince exempt from waivers? If not, he might get a shot first in the line up
Is Prince exempt from waivers? If not, he might get a shot first in the line up
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Dorion made it clear Wideman will have a spot unless he has a terrible camp and loses it. Dorion brought up Prince as needing to be on the team and cited him being the 6th highest ahl scorer. He then brought up Puempel needing a spot on the team
Basically said Lazar will play Lw, C or Rw if they need him to. Sounds like he will be starting on the team
My guess.... Greening AND Smith will be Ahl bound and Lazar will play center
So ya.....Wideman is starting the year on the team unless he blows it badly
Didnt mention Schneider
Wideman, Prince and Puempel being on the team. Is there room?
Dorion seems very high on Prince and Puempel
Basically said Lazar will play Lw, C or Rw if they need him to. Sounds like he will be starting on the team
My guess.... Greening AND Smith will be Ahl bound and Lazar will play center
So ya.....Wideman is starting the year on the team unless he blows it badly
Didnt mention Schneider
Wideman, Prince and Puempel being on the team. Is there room?
Dorion seems very high on Prince and Puempel
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I think he's nothing more than a 7th dman. Imo a Cowen - Wideman pairing would be better than Cowen - Boro
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Hoff-Zibby-Ryan
Mac-Turris-Stone
Michalek-Pageau-Prince
Puempel-Lazar-Chiasson
Neil
Methot-Karlsson
Wier-Ceci
Cowen-Wideman
Boro
Phillips
Anderson
Hammond
Hoffman and Puempel will be switched if needed
Based on what management has said.
1) Cowen will be played regardless of performance
2) Puempel is wanted on the team
3) Prince is wanted on the team
4) Wideman is on the team unless he screws up badly
5) Nothing has been guranteed to Greening other then he wont be bought out
6) Dizzy and Robinson have an opportunity
7) Paul has an opportunity
8) Murray thinks Michalek can fill condra role on Pageau's line
9) Neil and Phillips will not be everyday players
Mac-Turris-Stone
Michalek-Pageau-Prince
Puempel-Lazar-Chiasson
Neil
Methot-Karlsson
Wier-Ceci
Cowen-Wideman
Boro
Phillips
Anderson
Hammond
Hoffman and Puempel will be switched if needed
Based on what management has said.
1) Cowen will be played regardless of performance
2) Puempel is wanted on the team
3) Prince is wanted on the team
4) Wideman is on the team unless he screws up badly
5) Nothing has been guranteed to Greening other then he wont be bought out
6) Dizzy and Robinson have an opportunity
7) Paul has an opportunity
8) Murray thinks Michalek can fill condra role on Pageau's line
9) Neil and Phillips will not be everyday players
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Puempel has 1 less year as a pro then Prince. He migth develop more and is still pretty raw. Hes grown a lot in the last 3 years
Prince might actually be the best forward in his league
I mean maybe Puempel skill set will translate better(he does score alot of ahl pp points not sure if thats good) but Prince might be the best forward in the AHL. Hes in that discussion...Puempel isnt
Dorion actually mentioned Prince's name first when he was asked which young guys he wants on the team then he mentioned Puempel. That might not mean anything but point is they want both of them in the NHL
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The question is who do they bump? I have a hard time believing we miraculously offload Smith, Neil, Chiasson or Greening in the offseason. Puemple specifically could be sent down regardless because he is exempt. Realistically I think Prince or Puemple start the year in the AHL and come up to cover injuries.
Puemple-Paul-Prince (P cubed?) line would be pretty sweet in the AHL to start the year.
I'm guessing
MacArthur-Turris-Stone
Hoffman-Zbad-Ryan
Michalek-Pageau-Lazar
Prince-Smith-Chiasson
Neil
Karlsson-Methot
Wier-Ceci
Cowen-Wideman
Boro/Philips
Anderson
Hammond
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MacAthur - Turris - Stone
Hoffman - Zibby - Ryan
Michalek - Pageau - Prince
Puempel - Lazar - Chiasson
(Neil)
Methot - King Karl
Wiercioch - Ceci
Cowen - Wideman
(Phillips/Boro)
I am hoping Smith and Greening start in the A. Let's keep giving the youngsters oppurtinuties.
Hoffman - Zibby - Ryan
Michalek - Pageau - Prince
Puempel - Lazar - Chiasson
(Neil)
Methot - King Karl
Wiercioch - Ceci
Cowen - Wideman
(Phillips/Boro)
I am hoping Smith and Greening start in the A. Let's keep giving the youngsters oppurtinuties.
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan
Michalek - Turris - Stone
MacArthur - Pageau - Lazar
Prince - Smith - Chiasson
Neil
Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Ceci
Wiercioch - Borowiecki
Phillips, Wideman
Anderson
Hammond
Michalek - Turris - Stone
MacArthur - Pageau - Lazar
Prince - Smith - Chiasson
Neil
Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Ceci
Wiercioch - Borowiecki
Phillips, Wideman
Anderson
Hammond
As some here have indicated, Greening and Smith - if not traded - could be bound for the AHL. Best of both worlds if they are. Interesting to see what Chiasson gets in arbitration. Maybe Sens walk away to clear the spot. From the comments made coming from Development Camp, Paul is a man among boys and is ready. He'll start in Binghamton, and Lazar centres the 4th line, but I hope its not an issue of a poor contract blocking his chance to play here. If he earns it, he could be up by December Prince and Wideman will not clear waivers, so need a place on the roster. Puempel gets lots of love as well. And hopefully Phillips retires.
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan
MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Prince - Pageau - Michalek
Puempel - Paul - Lazar
Chiasson?, Neil?
Methot - Karlsson
Wiercioch - Ceci
Cowen - Borowiecki
Wideman
Anderson
Hammond
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan
MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Prince - Pageau - Michalek
Puempel - Paul - Lazar
Chiasson?, Neil?
Methot - Karlsson
Wiercioch - Ceci
Cowen - Borowiecki
Wideman
Anderson
Hammond
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Assuming all 8 D are on the roster opening night and MacArthur, Turris Stone, Ryan, Hoffman, Zibanejad, Michalek and Pageau are set in stone, there are 5 spots for Lazar, Puempel, Prince, Chiasson, Neil, Smith and Greening to fight for.
I think it's a given that Greening starts in the AHL, so that leaves 6 guys for 5 spots. Lazar and Puempel are waiver exempt, so I could see management starting one in the minors to buy some time or give a longer look to Prince before deciding.
Smith might be safe because he's the only LH center I think. Maybe if Paul makes the team he gets bumped but I think that's a longshot.
Neil is a long time vet and unlikely to be waived or demoted. He'll likely be our 13th forward.
Chiasson is a recent acquisition; might be hard to give up on him so quickly.
Like it or not, unless someone is injured, my expectation is that one of Lazar, Puempel, or Prince doesn't make the team on opening night. I wouldn't mind seeing someone traded to give us more flexibility, but I don't really expect it.
I think it's a given that Greening starts in the AHL, so that leaves 6 guys for 5 spots. Lazar and Puempel are waiver exempt, so I could see management starting one in the minors to buy some time or give a longer look to Prince before deciding.
Smith might be safe because he's the only LH center I think. Maybe if Paul makes the team he gets bumped but I think that's a longshot.
Neil is a long time vet and unlikely to be waived or demoted. He'll likely be our 13th forward.
Chiasson is a recent acquisition; might be hard to give up on him so quickly.
Like it or not, unless someone is injured, my expectation is that one of Lazar, Puempel, or Prince doesn't make the team on opening night. I wouldn't mind seeing someone traded to give us more flexibility, but I don't really expect it.
I think you are correct that Paul starts in the AHL, but if he earns a roster spot, its a shame that he has to. That might mean Smith has to play, but he's not at the level of the other two he'd be playing with. He needs to re-find that other gear.
I wonder if Cameron changes up his lines from the end of last year.
Of the rest, Puempel would be the one I'd think sent back. Lazar can replace Smith if it doesn't go well.
Moving on from Smith, Neil, Greening at a minimum is a must if we are going to get a playoff spot. This team is getting so close to being a contender. Just a couple of pieces away, and they may be playing at Development Camp now.
I am almost 100% in agreement with this, though not with Hoffman on the top line, I think Mac should get the chance there to start:
MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan
Michalek - Pageau - Lazar
Puempel - Smith - Chiasson
I think that Nick Paul has a real chance to come up first.
Methot - Karlsson
Wiercoch - Ceci
Cowen - Boro
Wideman
Andy
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