Player Discussion: Ondrej Palat

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  1. Rschmitz

    Rschmitz Registered User

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    Congrats to Palat and his family!

    We've been playing so well without him, its easy to forget about Drej! :sarcasm:
     
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  5. AlwaysSunnyInTampa

    AlwaysSunnyInTampa At last!! Street cred is mine!

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    @DFC it's almost January...... You know what that means
     
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    It's already started. He has 7 points in his last 8 games.
     
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  7. AlwaysSunnyInTampa

    AlwaysSunnyInTampa At last!! Street cred is mine!

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    But we know he can go higher
     
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    How bad has palat been? Yikes
     
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    Even lost his PP1 spot to Miller midway thru the game IIRC. Drej needs to pull his head out of the sand.
     
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    Pretty sure it's Stamkos that's dragging him down as well as Gourde. Both players were doing much better before being put on his wing. Stamkos just doesn't elevate his linemates at all. We need to put wingers who can produce no matter who centers them, I'm talking Killorn and Callahan.

    Killorn - Stamkos - Callahan

    Stamkos can do his thing and the two wingers will do theirs and somehow they'll all hit their expected production. Meanwhile Palat can try to regain his form with Point or form a great shutdown line with Cirelli.
     
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    Love it. :laugh:
     
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    Can't stay healthy, can't stay consistent. His style of play is not going to age well would be the first contract I'd move if it were possible.
     
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    disagree the value will be better for a return of gourde or miller because we can move them to any team! with palat we have to get him to waive his NTC for a team which will hurt the value of return.
     
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    "if it were possible"

    Who cares about the value? Capspace is more important, seconded by effective players on the roster. You're not getting full value for Gourde or Miller either because every team knows Tampa needs to clear capspace, at least those 2 can stay healthy and contribute.
     
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    because we need kids / prospects to replace a palat, miller or gourde otherwise we become a lottery team like the blackhawks get as much value back as possible in every trade
     
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    Post Karl Malone We won that first period, tho Sponsor

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    I don't even really care, TBH. Palat has been bad this year. Not just in the sense that he's not playing to his usual standard. He's been actively bad.

    I'd absolutely explore moving Palat before Miller at this point.
     
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    thats cool tell that to his full NTC he has for the next three years
     
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    This is stupid. Blackhawks went backwards because they overvalued the wrong players. Trading Panarin for Saad while not saving any ****ing money? Why?

    Add into that, they signed everyone to retirement contracts. Say what you want about the Killorn, Palat, Johnson contracts, but they cover the players prime years, not their twilight years.
     
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    Oh right, my bad. No one has ever waived an NTC in the entire history of the league. Almost forgot about that.
     
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    Not only that but the Blackhawks spent years emptying out their cupboard trading for rentals and trying to extend their window, I'm not faulting them because ultimate they are the most successful team the past decade but the situations are nowhere near the same as TB.
     
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    But you gave him A NTC why would he want to leave a contender and Tampa for another place ?
     
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    A NTC doesn't protect you from the expansion draft so if Palat would prefer to play for Seattle or a team he may get a say in is up to him. His role is slowly diminishing and he will be falling out of the top 6, he should be already but Cooper is stubborn on him. He still will want one more big contract and if you're playing in the bottom 6 with little PP time you would have the numbers for a big deal. He could waive and get back to being a legit top 6 player and get that retirement contract, he sure as hell won't here.

    As for replacements we have them, especially for what Palat has become. Volkov plays a similar style, more of a shooter though, who can slide into a 2nd or 3rd line role and not fail. Katchouk is having a rough rookie year but a bounce back season next year and he could be a replacement. ABB is still a mystery to me, the kid has a ton of offensive skill, not sure he can do it in the NHL and at 5 on 5. Joseph can also play the left side if needed and he's playing better than Palat already. We aren't replacing the Palat of a few years ago which would be hard, the current one is easier.
     
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    Todd1a Kucherov or prospect

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    Right not say he won’t move one day I just don’t see it happening at the deadline or this summer. Expansion draft it’s possible he moves then. Him going to Seattle would not be bad he would get a top 6 role there pretty easily.
     
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    They also over-estimated how quickly the cap would rise when it came time to sign Kane and Toews. Saving no money there whatsoever hurt them a lot. It's been a few years and those are still two of the biggest contracts in the league.
     
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    Sadly, I have to agree that it's looking more and more like Palat is a passenger now, and expendable. Funny that, between the two of them, Johnson's contract looked worse. But Palat seems to be relaxing with his new money. Time will tell on Johnson's contract, but so far he's at least earning his money.
     
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