Value of: Olli Maatta
- Thread starter Kaners Bald Spot
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I don’t know how the Pens were able to dump him on the Hawks. He is too slow and a borderline capdump.
Kaners Bald Spot
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He's not slow anymore. He's average. Maybe he was having trouble in 18-19 but he's fine this year.
Maatta is overpaid by like 1.1-1.6M. If he was making 2.5-3M he'd be valuable.
I can’t think of any teams with interest- especially considering the flat cap. It would have to be a similar overpaid winger for Maata. Maybe a buyout?
DisgruntledHawkFan
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The guy was a rock solid #4 defenseman this year. He’s worth his contract.
Kaners Bald Spot
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We'll see if they can get something for him in trade. Would be nice if they didn't have to buy him out. I agree with you that he was rock solid this year but I think he's more of a 2nd/3rd pairing tweener.
CallMeShaft
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I like the guy, but he might need to be moved due to the stagnant cap, which likely hurts his overall value a bit.
If he is traded, I can see us retaining a million or so.
If he is traded, I can see us retaining a million or so.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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Kaners Bald Spot
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There are different types of "tweeners" the Hawks have a bunch of them.
There's a middle 6 tweener, which you'd rather have on your 3rd line but can play on the 2nd if necessary
There's a top 6 tweener who you'd rather have on your 2nd line but isn't responsible enough defensively to play 2nd line minutes and is useless when not scoring.
There's a top 4 tweener for a guy who's awesome offensively from the back end but you'd rather him not be on your top pairing due to defensive deficiencies...I could go on.
Not every tweener is your NHL/AHL tweener.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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I don’t agree that he’s a bottom pairing defenseman, but even by your standard #4-5 defenseman have value. He’s capable offensively and he’s really steady defensively. I’d rather move Saad than Olli, especially if we have to pay to do so.
I think you would have to retain or offer a sweetener to offload him. Flat cap has really crippled teams and many will be trying to offload similar contracts like Maata. Teams with cap space will look to tax teams needing to dump cap.
DingDongCharlie
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Can’t see why anyone would be interested if no cap is going back. With the stagnant cap teams with space would be smart to maximize value of available space. Spending $4 million on Maatta isn’t maximizing it, it’s wasting it.
Teams not contending like Chicago should just ride the contract out.
Teams not contending like Chicago should just ride the contract out.
VanillaCoke
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He even got a ntc by Pitts. No need for the ntc now as his caphit does the trick. Buyout is an option. He has a very reasonable buyout.
Negative value contract in this flat cap environment. Not really his fault. More a c19 consequence on the nhls salary cap and lack of economic growth for the foreseeable future. Chicago needs to an as asset (2nd Rounder) if taking back an ahl player that stays off their cap. Probably best to ride out Olli’s deal.
People forget how good he looked out of the gate, 30 points as a 19 year old rookie while being solid defensively, made the Finnish Olympic team which won bronze and scored 5pts in 6 games. Also played top 4 minutes in back to back cup winners.
Certainly didn't help.
Maatta's got that contract because Rutherford likes to bet on promising young dmen developing. If they develop into 2-3 types, he wins. If they become 3-4 types, he breaks even. If they miss a little, he can just trades them because there's not enough good dmen in the NHL and someone is going to be happy enough to take them even if they're a bit overpaid.
Empoleon8771
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I feel like people are undervaluing Maatta in here, he was traded for Kahun just a year ago and had what looks like a fairly solid season with the Hawks this year. If the Penguins didn't have JJ, I'd be happy to bring Maatta back to be the 3rd pair LD. I think you can easily find a team who would want an all situations #4D who has won 2 cups.
mattyboy
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I see a team taking his full contract on if you include a good prospect.
Otherwise, with the cap situation for the next few years, looks like you’re stuck with him.
Or, retain a decent chunk for a 5th-6th rd pick
Otherwise, with the cap situation for the next few years, looks like you’re stuck with him.
Or, retain a decent chunk for a 5th-6th rd pick
And two shoulder surgeries. People forget he's still not even 26 yet. After his rookie season I was convinced he'd be a #2/3 dmen capable of 35-40 points.
Buyout is just 680 000 so no point to retaining or taking bad contract. NHL player, pick(s) or long shot prospect.
