Salary Cap: Oliver Ekman-Larsson

[MarkMM]

The thing that is brutal for me is the excuses when good things do happen.

Game 7 vs Vegas

"We only got there because of Markstrom"

Demko played game 5 and 6

"Waa waa wee wah"


Then this year.

Our whole team got covid.

"every team dealt with covid"

No we literally had to cancel our schedule for 3 weeks cuz the whole team got covid

"waa waa wee wah"

Of course there's a variety of viewpoints but most of the time when people have qualified those good things you pointed out is specifically within the context of Benning's defenders saying that those items have proved he was right all along and that his decisions were good, which is outrageously out to lunch.

Sure we were happy to get into the playoffs and of course most of us were praying luck would swing our way and we'd go deep or all the way (everyone's fantasy). But if Benning defenders then took that to mean that it was good strategy to trade Madden for Toffoli, bury our team with years of dead cap space in a horrific bottom six, well, of course you're going to be laughed out of the room.

Same with COVID...yes, we were hit harder, and as I recall, a lot of the criticism of management was questioning whether we were handling it well, which also seemed reflective of players making frustrated comments, so don't pretend that this was a manufactured Benning hater issue. And again the main context was whether the reason the Canucks performed poorly was truly due to COVID, or the bad coaching, dead cap space on bottom six roster junk, lack of depth of pipeline with all the draft picks thrown away, the wrong prioritization of Holtby and Virtanen over Tanev and Toffoli.

So to say that this was Benning haters always finding the negative angles in everything is dishonestly out of context.

 

[lush]

I don't mind the player and hopefully I don't completely hate the contract once he gets going. The optics are so bad though for so many reasons. My biggest complaint is the fact it forces open our window of contention immediately. There is no more "future" left or on the way for the most part. We could have delayed the window 12 months to open it up with more cap space + Guenther (along with a new GM....)

Well it's clear I don't own the team and the flipside is the team will be much more enjoyable to follow this season coming up

 

[logan5]

People bring up his injuries, but his knee surgery was minor, and he has missed very few games through his career. Seems durable actually.

 

[GetFocht]

His cap hit with the Canucks ranked around 20 which doesn't include Seth Jones new contract and whatever happens in free agency tomm.

1. Erik Karlsson	SJS	31	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$11,500,000	$14,500,000
2. Drew Doughty	LAK	31	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$11,000,000	$11,000,000
3. Roman Josi	NSH	31	LD	Left	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$9,059,000	$10,750,000
4. P.K. Subban	NJD	32	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$9,000,000	$8,000,000
5. Cale Makar	COL	22	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$9,000,000	$8,000,000
6. Alex Pietrangelo	VGK	31	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$8,800,000	$5,000,000
7. Miro Heiskanen	DAL	21	LD/RD	Left	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$8,450,000	$5,000,000
9. Jacob Trouba	NYR	27	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$8,000,000	$8,000,000
10. Thomas Chabot	OTT	24	LD	Left	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$8,000,000	$7,000,000
11. John Carlson	WSH	31	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$8,000,000	$8,000,000
12. Brent Burns	SJS	36	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC	UFA	$8,000,000	$7,500,000
13. Victor Hedman	TBL	30	LD	Left	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$7,875,000	$8,000,000
14. Shea Weber	MTL	35	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-		UFA	$7,857,143	$6,000,000
15. Jared Spurgeon	MIN	31	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$7,575,000	$9,000,000
16. Aaron Ekblad	FLA	25	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$7,500,000	$9,000,000
17. Kris Letang	PIT	34	RD	Right	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	M-NTC, NMC	UFA	$7,250,000	$7,250,000
18. Marc-Édouard Vlasic	SJS	34	LD/RD	Left	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.00		-	-	-	-	-	NMC	UFA	$7,000,000	$7,250,000

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

OEL produces better than most of those defenceman.

 

[timw33]

Lmao, loving that the only spin angle now is that there are also a bunch of other boat anchor contracts around the league that teams would love to dump for no return.

Better idea: don't be the one getting stuck with the hot potato.

 

[Jimnastic]

The Garland part of the trade is hard to take because of the 9OA, would rather we do 2 2nds to get that but whatever. Garland will offer value depending on his contract.
The OWL part, it he performs like an actual top 4 guy then yeah. If he doesn’t then this will probably close the window for the next couple of years. You can’t compete having 13.2M (myers + OEL) worth of defenders who cannot defend. I think a bunch of folks are definitely ignoring the past 4 freaking years of bad play and are praying that he can somehow reverse that. We’ll see but the odds are terrible.

I choose to hope that this is going to be the rebound year for the Canucks.

I would say there is a good possibility that Myers and OEL and Hughes and Olli could all have very solid years. We no longer have a bunch of slugs in the middle of the ice for half the game. We have 3 1/3 very solid forward lines. Benning got us into this mess by overpaying a bunch of shopworn relics. Maybe he has gotten us out of it.

With the buyout of Holtby and assuming Sutter is gone I don't see any contracts that are dead money, as long as our entire blue line lift their game this season.

Bring on the season. A team of bright young stars with a supporting cast of Schenn and others that we pay less than a mill for is a formula for success. Why Benning didn't see this for years I don't know. Hey, let's start a rumour that this is the doings of Daniel and Hendrik.

 

[Ita]

Dont even bother. Educating people on the Cap and its intricacies is a god damn useless endeavour i swear.

Try to do that on Reddit lol.

 

[arttk]

I choose to hope that this is going to be the rebound year for the Canucks.

I would say there is a good possibility that Myers and OEL and Hughes and Olli could all have very solid years. We no longer have a bunch of slugs in the middle of the ice for half the game. We have 3 1/3 very solid forward lines. Benning got us into this mess by overpaying a bunch of shopworn relics. Maybe he has gotten us out of it.

With the buyout of Holtby and assuming Sutter is gone I don't see any contracts that are dead money, as long as our entire blue line lift their game this season.

Bring on the season. A team of bright young stars with a supporting cast of Schenn and others that we pay less than a mill for is a formula for success. Why Benning didn't see this for years I don't know. Hey, let's start a rumour that this is the doings of Daniel and Hendrik.

There is still time left but looking at what we have now, we have no stabilizing LD unless Ratbone transforms himself. Myers won’t have anyone to carry him as well and he wasn’t exactly good last year. A better bottom 6 helps for sure but I don’t think it will be enough to makeup for just how bad defensively the guys are in the back unless Shaw can do some serious magic. The games will be interesting though, can see a lot of scoring on both sides of the ice. Demko is really going to have to earn his money.

 

[Jimnastic]

There is still time left but looking at what we have now, we have no stabilizing LD unless Ratbone transforms himself. Myers won’t have anyone to carry him as well and he wasn’t exactly good last year. A better bottom 6 helps for sure but I don’t think it will be enough to makeup for just how bad defensively the guys are in the back unless Shaw can do some serious magic. The games will be interesting though, can see a lot of scoring on both sides of the ice. Demko is really going to have to earn his money.

You have very valid concerns. I think we are going to have to have one defence on the wrong side, maybe Hughes is mobile enough to play right. I have no idea really. But I sincerely hope that our defence shines with the stronger support in the centre. And yeah, Demko is going to have his work cut out for him. I would rather have an exciting team that scores goals than a team that wins 1-0 every night.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Gotta say I'm very optimistic about OEL.

Maybe my judgement is clouded by seeing him live a few years ago & thinking he was phenomenal, but I think he's always been a very talented player (high IQ) that needed a new opportunity, and I dont think his talent has disappeared.

My expectations are still reasonable, not expecting 20 goals & 50+ points, but I do think his skillset will fit well with our forward group & he'll be an upgrade on what we've had in the past - no concerns about him replacing/improving on Edler

I also don't view the long-term quite as badly as the pessimists, but definitely understand the concern (thinking 4 good years atleast, then we'll see about the last 1-2).

 

[GetFocht]

Tyson Nash: OEL a 'perfect fit' with Canucks, Garland will rise to the occasion - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Sneezy]

OEL makes the team better, playoff better.

he is out of Arizona and now on a good team where he is not required to get 50 points. I expect him to play better at both ends of ice and still get 30-40 points.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Hope he remains a serviceable 2nd pair D who puts up some pts for at least 3 seasons
Don’t be bad

 

[geebaan]

Tyson Nash: OEL a 'perfect fit' with Canucks, Garland will rise to the occasion - Sportsnet.ca

they made an exact same f***ing article like that for Holtby and he got bought out so look how that turns out

 

[Get North]

OEL was pretty good in the bubble against Colorado. He was matched against Kadri's line most of the time it appeared. He's a better player than Edler, the only difference is he's a little smaller than Edler, but better at passing, quicker and mobile defensively.

Arizona was a horrific team though. Best 2 forwards were Kessel and Hall, terrible defensively. Weak centres like Soderberg, Richardson, Dvorak, Stepan don't compare to VAN or COL.

 

[Sinistril]

OEL is overpaid by 2 m. Az is eating 60% of that. People are acting like he's a bottom pairing dman. He's not just better than Edler last year, he's better than Tanev 2 years ago. With retention, a trade for OEL was good. Obviously, he'll need to get his form back (or not regress further) for this to be good down the road but right now it's like we're overpaying a UFA.

 

[Catamarca Livin]

I am curious what people think he would get as an Ufa. I am thinking at least 5.5m Barrie got 4.5m. I watched 0 of his games last year but he was 40 point pace for 4 d man. Maybe Schmidt money? 5.9m? Schmidt got an asset at 5.9m? Edler got 3.5m. Difference is I doubt OEL would get 6 years. Maybe 4.

 

[Nucker101]

OEL was pretty good in the bubble against Colorado. He was matched against Kadri's line most of the time it appeared. He's a better player than Edler, the only difference is he's a little smaller than Edler, but better at passing, quicker and mobile defensively.

Arizona was a horrific team though. Best 2 forwards were Kessel and Hall, terrible defensively. Weak centres like Soderberg, Richardson, Dvorak, Stepan don't compare to VAN or COL.

ARZ matched him against Kadri and the Canucks will match him against MacKinnon

 

[Sinistril]

ARZ matched him against Kadri and the Canucks will match him against MacKinnon

Good thing the Canucks added forwards that can help out on defense...

 

[ProstheticConscience]

OEL makes the team better, playoff better.

he is out of Arizona and now on a good team where he is not required to get 50 points. I expect him to play better at both ends of ice and still get 30-40 points.

NHL Hockey Standings

Oh yeah. OEL will surely thrive on a good team that finished...2 places behind Arizona this last season.

 

[Sinistril]

NHL Hockey Standings

Oh yeah. OEL will surely thrive on a good team that finished...2 places behind Arizona this last season.

Playing in a different league

 

[Dural]

I am curious what people think he would get as an Ufa. I am thinking at least 5.5m Barrie got 4.5m. I watched 0 of his games last year but he was 40 point pace for 4 d man. Maybe Schmidt money? 5.9m? Schmidt got an asset at 5.9m? Edler got 3.5m. Difference is I doubt OEL would get 6 years. Maybe 4.

Hard to say what any one team may do, but I think the majority of interested teams would consider term the most important thing, with 2-3 years being ideal. In that kind of structure, he could be worth taking a 5-6m gamble on.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Playing in a different league

What?

 

[PuckMunchkin]

What?

KHL

 

[Sinistril]

What?

There were four leagues this last season. Not so hard to understand. Teams are incomparable